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Rudy opposes gay nups ban (3/8/2004)
New York Daily News ^ | 3/8/2004 | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 01/26/2007 12:29:42 PM PST by Ol' Sparky

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani, who lived with a gay Manhattan couple when he moved out of Gracie Mansion during his nasty divorce.

Giuliani took his gay rights stance just as speculation hits a fever pitch that he's in line to replace Cheney on Bush's ticket.

Cheney and New York Sen. Hillary Clinton fueled the vice presidential talk at Saturday night's Gridiron Dinner in Washington.

To a mock question from the audience asking Cheney to step aside for someone with "new energy and vitality," the veep turned to Giuliani and zinged: "You need to do a better job of disguising your handwriting."

Asked yesterday whether he would run with Bush if Cheney stepped aside, the mayor-turned-businessman mimicked Marlon Brando in "The Godfather": "An offer I couldn't refuse, right?" But he didn't say no.

Giuliani conceded he's "out of sync" with his party's conservative base, but likened himself to other moderate GOP stars like Gov. Pataki and Calif. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And while he was cagey on the veep talk, the former mayor said he will run for elected office again, but didn't say which one.

Giuliani is considered a leading GOP hopeful in the 2008 presidential race, though he may decide to challenge Clinton in her 2006 Senate reelection bid.

But for now, Giuliani has been making the rounds burnishing the President's terror-fighting credentials and joining in Republican attempts to portray Kerry as a would-be waffler-in-chief.

He once more defended Bush's use of footage of a flag-draped coffin coming out of Ground Zero in controversial new political ads.

"To leave [Sept. 11] out of a political campaign when you're running for reelection cuts out half your leadership," he said. "I mean, it would make no sense."

But Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who ran against Bush in 2000, disagreed.

"I might not have used the ad of the coffin coming out, or the body coming out of the ruins with a flag on it," he told ABC's "This Week."

Originally published on March 8, 2004


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buthecanwin; giulianirino; homosexualagenda
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To: areafiftyone
to get a RINO thread started all over again

Hell, with ALL of the RINO-loving threads you incessantly post, why are you whining?

141 posted on 01/26/2007 2:49:48 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: flashbunny
You rudy cheerleaders are a funny bunch.

I agree with you flashbunny, but the question is...

are they funny - haha, or funny - strange.

It appears to me that they are STRANGE-to-the MAX.

142 posted on 01/26/2007 2:52:39 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: DocH

The reason your constantly posting anti-Rudy stuff is flop sweat.

You Rudy Haters are scared.


143 posted on 01/26/2007 3:02:12 PM PST by Blackirish (David Dinkins:"Rudy as President is kind of frightening.My question will be, will I move to Bermuda")
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To: evad
single issue conservatives

1.Pro-Life

2.Pro-Gun

3.Anti Illegal Immigration

4.Anti Gay Marriage and SPECIAL Rights

There are more of course, but even without listing any more...

Does the list of issues above LOOK LIKE ONE ISSUE TO YOU?

If it DOES, then you need to improve your math skills.

144 posted on 01/26/2007 3:07:08 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: DocH
You don't get it Doc,

It's the Conservatives they despise! That's their whole point.

Ever see what happens when someone mentions Newt or Hunter or any of the other Conservatives to them?

It ain't pretty.

The whole point is to do away with Conservatism permanently, and to try and make a second Libertarian Party - only one that's Pro War. These folks hate SoCons more than Hitlery.
145 posted on 01/26/2007 3:09:53 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: DocH
1.Pro-Life 2.Pro-Gun 3.Anti Illegal Immigration 4.Anti Gay Marriage and SPECIAL Rights

No, those are all separate bona fide conservative issues.

146 posted on 01/26/2007 3:14:55 PM PST by evad
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To: Graybeard58
areafiftyone (actually, rudy's long lost homosexual brother) is NOT a single issue voter either. Here are his conservative issues:

1. WOT

2. WOT

3. WOT

4. WOT

5. WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT WOT...

147 posted on 01/26/2007 3:16:19 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: word_warrior_bob
If you see what else I wrote, he is not my ideal candidate but that won't stop me for voting for him if he's the nominee.

You are MORE than welcome to vote for him my friend, but it is inexplicable to me.

I, for one, will NEVER vote for a RINO.

148 posted on 01/26/2007 3:20:26 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: All

149 posted on 01/26/2007 3:22:03 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: DocH

Let's see, Doc:

1.) Gay Rights as Civil Rights.
2.) Civil Unions (and possibly gay marriage - depending on which Rudy).
3.) Abortion.
4.) Public funding of Abortion.
5.) Partial-Birth Abortion.
6.) Second Amendment Rights.
7.) Campaign Finance Reform.
8.) Hate Crimes Legislation.
9.) Public funding of Liberal Social Policies.
10.) Total amnesty for illegal immigrants.
11.) Excessive government borrowing.

and on and on.......All one issue, I guess.


150 posted on 01/26/2007 3:22:41 PM PST by TitansAFC (Pacifism is not peace; pacifists are not peacemakers.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Not a viable candidate


151 posted on 01/26/2007 3:23:28 PM PST by Steamburg (If we don't want our nation bad enough to protect it, it won't be ours long.)
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To: Blackirish

"You Rudy Haters are scared."

Yeah, that the GOP will run a RINO per the wishes of the mainstream media - one that will lose to a democrat because their repugnant positions keep the conservative base at home.

Sell out something else, but not the presidency.


152 posted on 01/26/2007 3:26:35 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be plucking feathers and boiling tar.)
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To: Blackirish
You Rudy Haters are scared.

We aren't scared, except to say we'd HATE to see EXTREMELY IMPORTANT Life-Or-Death issues like ABORTION, and Constitutional Life-Or-Death issues like our 2ND AMENDMENT Rights, in the hands of a RINO OR a demonRAT president (one's as bad as the other, no - a RINO is WORSE because he's a TRAITOR and UNTRUSTWORTHY).

There's a simple fix this early in the game...

Select and support, to the hilt, a TRUE CONSERVATIVE who helps us DIFFERENTIATE ourselves from the liberal dems, NOT a VIRTUAL CLONE RINO like giuliani.

153 posted on 01/26/2007 3:30:26 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: word_warrior_bob

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLO


154 posted on 01/26/2007 3:55:06 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: DocH

Apparently you aren't reading up on what Rudy has accomplished and can accomplish are you? Of course not - that would be too much for your brain to handle. Look at background and you will see he has done more and accomplished more than any one who is running at this point in time!


155 posted on 01/26/2007 3:55:59 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: JCEccles
As mayor of NYC in the wake of 9/11 ex-prosecutor Giuliani made it his personal obsession to know each day exactly where in the city who was making hateful noises about Islam so he could bring the full force of the NYPD to bear to crack heads to ensure everyone was thinking happy and loving thoughts about Islam:

Now that is completely idiotic statement and you know it but I wouldn't expect anything else coming from you guys!

156 posted on 01/26/2007 3:57:41 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: TitansAFC; DocH
Ever see what happens when someone mentions Newt or Hunter or any of the other Conservatives to them?

Actually I'm a Newt Gingrich Fan in case you don't know it. So you don't know a thing. It's you nutty people who get all antsy when someone mentions Newt - right away there are twenty fornicator posts and wife cheater etc.

157 posted on 01/26/2007 3:59:45 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: areafiftyone

I think not. I will work diligently for the conservative in the primary, not Rudy or McLame.


158 posted on 01/26/2007 4:26:38 PM PST by pissant
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To: areafiftyone
THIS ARTICLE IS FROM 2004!! IT IS NOT A NEW POST!

People should have realized this was an old article when it talked about Bush replacing Dick Cheney with Rudy as his VP running mate.

159 posted on 01/26/2007 4:32:53 PM PST by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: showme_the_Glory

I agree. Duncan Hunter looks like the best candidate in the race so far.


160 posted on 01/26/2007 4:47:31 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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