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January 27, 2007 | AdamSmithWasRight

Posted on 01/26/2007 9:16:25 AM PST by AdamSmithWasRight

As I read the news day in and day out from my perspective of being on the inside looking out, I look at my own home and couldn't be any more embarrassed than I currently am. It has been compounded from 9/11 by constant images and stories in the media about the actions of the Muslim community.

I must admit to myself if I was on the outside looking in I would probably look at myself in the same way so many others do. If all I saw were nihilistic thugs raping, robbing, murdering, and littering the streets of the world with the bodies of innocent people I wouldn't know what else to think of this group of people for religion.

As I now sit inside of the United States I find myself looking at this house in two perspectives. At times from the inside looking out and wanting to escape for this image that has haunts me day in and day out but also at times from the outside looking in. It is these proud patriotic times when religion takes the passenger seat or well I should say, isn't even in the car, that I look at that house and think, "Don't you people get it???"

At moments like this I realize and force myself to accept the reality that the real problem here is the Muslim community itself. It is no longer the fundamentalsits or Al-Qaeda alone, rather the very community itself that has failed to deliver or even show an attempt to remedy this nihilistic ideology within their ranks. As an American but also as a Muslim I would like to convey my most sincere apologies although I know to most this are just empty words in light of the death and injury of so many. For most we have reached a point where apologies and words will do nothing but further agitate the situation. Rather what is needed is action.

It is this which I do recognize and wish deliver, but I realize that I can only do this with help from others. I would hope that the American people, my brothers and sisters, would not so easily give up on the Bush doctrine of changing the face of the middle east where this dangerous threat to world civility and humanity is found. If we hope to find change I believe we can only find it in the overthrowing and or absolute destruction of the very regimes and elements that support this authoritarinism from within their midst. As long as we hold on to the Bush doctrine I honestly believe that we can one day watch the purple fingers of freedom wave from Morocco to Indonesia.

Until that day, if it comes, I apologize my friends and ask you to stick with the President and his vision for a new middle east.


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To: presidio9
"I honestly people should get banned for making pronouncements like that one you made. It would go a long way towards cleaning up FR's public image, which currently stinks."

I totally agree. Not to mention the attacks on women day after day, usually for no good reason. You have to wonder how many women actually contribute MONEY to this site. I would never send a fencesitting/moderate/politically non-savy woman to this site.

81 posted on 01/26/2007 10:38:18 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: heartwood

Well, there's some "Christians" here who believe I shouldn't have the right to vote. I guess they are at odds with this country, too.


82 posted on 01/26/2007 10:39:50 AM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: dljordan
Sorry, but this American just doesnt trust muslims or liberals!

"Love your enemies."

"Bless those who curse you."

"Turn the other cheek."

Sound familiar?
83 posted on 01/26/2007 10:39:57 AM PST by jcb1379
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To: presidio9
Hey Mod's...... How about pulling "edcoil" SECOND! - Lets not do that, we need the fodder.
84 posted on 01/26/2007 10:41:36 AM PST by SF Republican
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To: AdamSmithWasRight

Wow. Welcome to Free Republic. It is brave folks like yourself who can change the face of Islam. I am in this fight to the end.


85 posted on 01/26/2007 10:42:38 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: edcoil
You cannot be an American and also a muslim.

Incorrect.

The document that gives the original poster the freedom to practice Islam in this country is the same document that protects your right to be an a-hole.

86 posted on 01/26/2007 10:42:49 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Our national sovereignty and cohesion as a country is not for sale at any price.)
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To: presidio9

Re#46 Well done...


87 posted on 01/26/2007 10:43:34 AM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: edcoil

But apparently you can be an American and be a complete bigot.


88 posted on 01/26/2007 10:43:34 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Wolfstar
There are many things in the Bible that, if taken literally and acted on, would violate U.S. law.

Exactly. Islam needs to move beyond strict literalism in it's reading of the Koran, as mainstream Christianity and Judaism have done with their holy books.
89 posted on 01/26/2007 10:44:24 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dljordan
"I understand what you're saying."

Then you should know why it's impossible for a Muslim to be an American, unless of course he ceases to be Muslim.

A Muslim can ignore Islams tenents for a time if the ultimate goal is a blow for Islam, which is why you can't trust a muslim either. They can be nice as pie for years, then blow up your nieghborhood.

That gives them instant Mohammad heaven.

90 posted on 01/26/2007 10:45:12 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: AdamSmithWasRight

I hope you will return to this thread for more dialogue. I appreciate your thoughts on this vital matter. May I ask a few questions about your perspective? My intention is to better understand how you arrived at your conclusions and why we aren't hearing from more Muslims with similar mindsets.

Were you born in America? Are you a practicing, observant Muslim? Were you raised as a Muslim, or did you convert? Did you attend public schools? In what general region of the country do you live? Do you regularly attend a mosque? If so, does your imam engage in much political speech? Of what nature? If you could take the pulse of other members of your Muslim community, what percentage of their membership would you guess might echo your position? If the percentage is significant, what, in your opinion, keeps so many of them from speaking out publicly?

Thank you for your time.


91 posted on 01/26/2007 10:45:31 AM PST by lonevoice (It's always "Apologize to a Muslim" hour...somewhere)
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To: AdamSmithWasRight

Just a question: Who has been at war with the world for over 1400 years?


92 posted on 01/26/2007 10:46:07 AM PST by JayAr36
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To: edcoil

>>You cannot be an American and also a muslim.<<

Well, technically you can. After all, we have Americans that claim to be Nazis. And they get the respect, or lack thereof, they deserve.

Just like "American" Muslims.

The problem is the belief system and even its members are its victims.


93 posted on 01/26/2007 10:47:10 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: presidio9
I honestly people should get banned for making pronouncements like that one you made. It would go a long way towards cleaning up FR's public image, which currently stinks.

AMEN. There are good patriotic Americans who happen to be Muslims that are saving our but every day. While there are serious issues with extreme Islam, we MUST help those who are desperately trying to moderate the religion. It is our only hope, frankly. This kind of garbage drives me nuts.

94 posted on 01/26/2007 10:48:02 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: Always Right

I ask the question everyone else has asked - where are these moderate Muslims? If the Islamofacists are in the minority, how come the majority refuses to rise up and cast them out? How come they are not marching against the Islamofacists? How come they are not throwing out the lunatic Immans? And they just do not want to destory Israel and also the west. They want to destroy everything not Muslim. Just ask the Indians and the Asian nations.


95 posted on 01/26/2007 10:48:23 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: jcb1379

Then why do so many fundamentalist Christians take Genesis literally?


96 posted on 01/26/2007 10:48:30 AM PST by Wolfstar ("A nation that hates its Horatios is already in grave danger of losing its soul." Dr. Jack Wheeler)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
" Exactly. Islam needs to move beyond strict literalism in it's reading of the Koran As Christianity has done"

Huh? Sorry, the Gospel is the same as it always was. As for the Koran and hadith, there is no other way to read them. It isn't inspired, and it can't be twisted to mean anything other than what it does. Try reading it sometime. And if you do, look up the correct order first, otherwize it's a wasted effort.

97 posted on 01/26/2007 10:49:09 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: SF Republican

I ask the question everyone else has asked - where are these moderate Muslims? If the Islamofacists are in the minority, how come the majority refuses to rise up and cast them out? How come they are not marching against the Islamofacists? How come they are not throwing out the lunatic Immans? And they just do not want to destory Israel and also the west. They want to destroy everything not Muslim. Just ask the Indians and the Asian nations.


98 posted on 01/26/2007 10:49:15 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I ask the question everyone else has asked - where are these moderate Muslims? If the Islamofacists are in the minority, how come the majority refuses to rise up and cast them out? How come they are not marching against the Islamofacists? How come they are not throwing out the lunatic Immans? And they just do not want to destory Israel and also the west. They want to destroy everything not Muslim. Just ask the Indians and the Asian nations.


99 posted on 01/26/2007 10:49:27 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: mysterio

I ask the question everyone else has asked - where are these moderate Muslims? If the Islamofacists are in the minority, how come the majority refuses to rise up and cast them out? How come they are not marching against the Islamofacists? How come they are not throwing out the lunatic Immans? And they just do not want to destory Israel and also the west. They want to destroy everything not Muslim. Just ask the Indians and the Asian nations.


100 posted on 01/26/2007 10:49:56 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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