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Hagel: American Troops Can't Win; Vieira: You're Sounding Presidential
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 01/26/2007 6:05:09 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

It's not uncommon for an interviewer to tell a guest offering orotund pronouncements that he's sounding "like a candidate." But Meredith Vieira took that one giant step further this morning, informing renegade Republican Chuck Hagel that he was sounding downright "presidential."

Of course, nothing sounds more presidential to an MSMer's ears than defeatist criticism of the war in Iraq and by extension of the current occupant of the White House. But when it came to the key question, Hagel, far from flashing presidential timber, equivocated like a garden-variety pol.

Vieira: "Senator, at this point, do you believe we are fighting and dying for nothing?"

Hagel immediately went into bob-and-weave mode: "Well, I think the Congress needs to take a look at it and each member of Congress needs to go on the record and need [sic] to address the issue in a very clear way so that they can go back to their constituents and say yes I either support an escalation to put 22,000 more troops in the middle of a sectarian civil war, or I don't."

View video here.

Senator, your resolution doesn't "take a look at it." It would deny the president the means to fight this war. Hagel pontificated at length until Meredith, clearly dissatisfied with his evasiveness, tried again:

"But again, senator, do you believe that we are fighting and dying for nothing, at this point?"

Hagel: "Well, we're asking that question. When you say dying and fighting for nothing, what are the parameters, what's the definition?"

No, Sen. Hagel, you're not "asking that question." By condemning the president's policy and opposing the surge, you're answering it. You obviously do believe our people are fighting and dying in vain. Why not have the courage of your convictions and say so?

Later, Vieira hit Hagel with a quote from Sen. Orrin Hatch [R-UT] accusing Hagel of "playing around with resolutions," adding "most Republicans want us to win over there."

Hagel seems given to big-league bloviating, but within his windy response to the Hatch quote was this: "Again, I go back to the question of what do you mean, 'win'? . . . Are we going to just blindly to continue to feed more troops into this situation, a sectarian civil war that American troops cannot win?"

In closing, Vieira turned to Hagel's ambitions: "I can't let you go without asking you, Senator Hagel. Are you planning to run for president? You're sounding presidential."

Hagel, albeit clumsily so, offered up a stock answer: "You'll be one of the first I, I let know and soon as I let, ah, let you know, we'll go from there. Thank you."

So let's see. Defeatism, leavened with a "define your terms" dodge reminiscent of Bill Clinton soliloquizing on the meaning of "is." Guess that would sound "presidential" to a member of the liberal media.

Mark was in Iraq in November. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: betrayus; chuckbetrayus; hagel; iraq; rinoalert; vieira
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1 posted on 01/26/2007 6:05:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

'Presidential'-Hagel ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 01/26/2007 6:07:03 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Barforama!

Hagel represents everything wrong and ugly in the Republican Party. He is filth.


3 posted on 01/26/2007 6:07:42 AM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"Hagel the Bagel"


4 posted on 01/26/2007 6:08:03 AM PST by TommyDale (If we don't put a stop to this global warming, we will all be dead in 10,000 years!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hagel is a loser. I hope he gets slammed in Senate session by some of his cohorts.


5 posted on 01/26/2007 6:08:53 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
As someone else has said, Hagel has confused his electability with national security.

Chicken Hawk...
6 posted on 01/26/2007 6:09:29 AM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Defeatism defined, Chuck Hagel.


7 posted on 01/26/2007 6:10:17 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: x1stcav
Idiot! Wrong icon!

Anyone But ...
8 posted on 01/26/2007 6:10:49 AM PST by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

what's the definition???

If any senator doesn't understand of definition of VICTORY .. they don't deserve to be elected to anything


9 posted on 01/26/2007 6:12:27 AM PST by Mo1 (Mrs. Bill Clinton - "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hey Vieira! Had Saddam's sons been raping you for fun, would our soldiers be dying in vain? You frikin' spoiled asshat!
10 posted on 01/26/2007 6:12:29 AM PST by avacado
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To: JoeGar

I hope he gets slammed by his states voters.


11 posted on 01/26/2007 6:14:45 AM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: avacado

Meredith asked a question that essentially put Hagel on the spot. It was Hagel who dodged it, Vieira who tried to hold his feet to the fire.


12 posted on 01/26/2007 6:15:23 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Where do they find such unmitigated weasels?


13 posted on 01/26/2007 6:16:00 AM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Defeatist

14 posted on 01/26/2007 6:16:05 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fuggeddaboudit, Chuck. And Meredith...I had you pegged as smarter than that.


15 posted on 01/26/2007 6:19:01 AM PST by RichInOC ("I see stupid people. They're everywhere....They don't even know that they're dumb.")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

dhimmi Hagel. Ground Chuck. Uncovered meat ALERT!


16 posted on 01/26/2007 6:20:04 AM PST by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Atleast Ms. Viera didn't throw her panties at Hagel....


17 posted on 01/26/2007 6:20:14 AM PST by NeoCaveman (out, out, damn rats)
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To: Doogle
hagel is a political opportunist of the worst kind, and a RINO media whore.

Say NO to any and all RINOs (mccain, giuliani,romney, hagel, and their ilk).

18 posted on 01/26/2007 6:20:20 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hagel, the Keith Olberman of the Senate is everywhere mouthing off. The MSM loves him now because he is so full of hate and will say anything to humiliate and debase President Bush.
19 posted on 01/26/2007 6:21:20 AM PST by motherof 3
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Again, I go back to the question of what do you mean, 'win'? . . . Are we going to just blindly to continue to feed more troops into this situation, a sectarian civil war that American troops cannot win?"

Precisely why our constitution calls for one commander-in-chief, and you are not IT, Hagel. (Or Warner, Voinovich, Collins, etc, etc etc).

None of you have been elected President, and this blatant power grap does not portend well any of you Presidential aspirants.

20 posted on 01/26/2007 6:21:40 AM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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