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1 posted on 01/25/2007 3:47:03 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/25/2007 3:47:28 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

"The Leech Lake Band of Ojibwe still manages the program, which added a crew of high school students in 2008.

The International Archaeological Society has just concluded its first North American.....scheduled to coincide with the town's annual fall celebration, Walker Mammoth Days — changed from "Ethnic Fest" in 2009."

Just wondering. Did we go past 2008 and 2009 already. My Calandar says this January of '07.


3 posted on 01/25/2007 3:54:13 PM PST by proudpapa (Forget Rudy McRomney it's Duncan Hunter in '08!)
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To: blam
Interesting that European hunters would have gotten that far into the North American interior 15,000 years ago.

One note, the 2,000,000 year long period of glaciation is interspersed with numerous "interglacials" where ALL the ice around that site would have melted away. These interglacials may be as short as about 10,000 years, or as long as 35,000 years ~ depending on a number of astrophysical orientations.

I have an arrowhead from the same period ~ it was brought up with material from a well on the Eastside of Indianapolis that penetrated to the "surface" prior to the last glaciation in that area.

Wisconsin may not be the only area to provide habitat suitible for life in that era.

4 posted on 01/25/2007 3:57:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MplsSteve

MN ping.


5 posted on 01/25/2007 3:59:23 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: blam

15,000 year old geocaching?


6 posted on 01/25/2007 4:21:05 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: blam

BTTT


7 posted on 01/25/2007 4:24:44 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: blam
They selected certain types of stones, flaked off just enough from the pebbles and cobbles to make sharp tools. They used the tools to prepare plants for food as well as the animals that they had killed or scavenged.

Organic materials they used, such as bone, wood, and fibers, have not survived.

This statement always brings my interest in a story to a grinding halt.
No corroborating evidence has survived, yet someone can take a leap of enthusiasm and described how the ancient groups behaved, based on the presence of chipped rocks and pebbles, created naturally.

I have never read a convincing explanation as to how these enthusiasts separate the naturally chipped stone never used as tools from the ones that might have been used as tools, absent other evidence.

8 posted on 01/25/2007 5:46:34 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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related:

Tools Found In Walker, May Be 14,000 Years Old
WCCO-TV | Friday, January 12, 2007 | Associated Press
Posted on 01/12/2007 11:34:52 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1766543/posts


13 posted on 01/25/2007 10:31:24 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...
Thanks Blam.

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14 posted on 01/25/2007 10:32:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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To: blam

Cool. Reminds me of an old site in western PA that has been undergoing archaeological excavation for several decades, Meadowcroft Shelter at Avella PA (Washington County).


20 posted on 01/26/2007 10:20:47 AM PST by Ciexyz (In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:)
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To: blam
Yeah, I was at The Walker Site...

The new one they gave me... Squeaked!
30 posted on 01/26/2007 5:27:01 PM PST by Bender2 (Gad, Millee! 1st Lindsy goes into rehab, then you bust a gut to get my attention...)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Geoarchaeology: The Earth-Science Approach to Archaeological Interpretation Geoarchaeology:
The Earth-Science Approach
to Archaeological Interpretation

by George (Rip) Rapp
and Christopher L. Hill


37 posted on 01/26/2007 11:23:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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Retracing the footprints of time
by Steve Sandford
September 9, 1996
web archive version
Direct radiocarbon dating of the Calgary site is not possible because the ancient artifacts were not found in conjunction with organic matter, such as bones or decayed plant matter, which is necessary for such testing. Absent such verification, Prof. Young dismisses the find. For one thing, he says, the artifacts are so simple they could merely be naturally-occurring rocks; he says that most informed scientists are doubtful they are tools. And even if they are tools, he adds that there is no way to be sure that they were originally situated where they were found under the gravel, since the site has served as an exposed gravel pit for the last 100 years. Comments Prof. Young: "Any dude could have put that rock there."
Ancient stone tools chip away date of early humans' arrival
by Margaret Munro
National Post
Jan 16 1999

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Recently, Dr. Chlachula and his colleagues have discovered three more sites containing what they believe are preglacial stone tools. One set of choppers and scrapers, described in the current edition of The Canadian Journal of Earth Sciences, was found in a gravel pit near the town of Grimshaw in northern Alberta. The other tools were unearthed last summer at two locations west of Lethbridge. All of them, says Dr. Chlachula, indicate that humans roamed through the Prairies between 20,000 and 40,000 years ago... Dr. Richard Morlan, curator of paleo-environmental studies at the Canadian Museum of Civilization in Hull, Que., says he has no reason to doubt Dr. Chlachula. Few people in the world, says Dr. Morlan, can match the 36-year-old researcher's expertise. Professor Nat Rutter, the former head of geology at the University of Alberta in Edmonton, agrees, noting that Dr. Chlachula has three PhDs and extensive field experience in both old world and new world archaeology... Prof. Rutter, at the University of Edmonton, also has much confidence in his research skills. "Jiri's work embarrassed a lot of other people," he says, because it suggests that Canadian archaeologists have been looking in the wrong place for human artifacts and they should be hunting underneath glacial deposits. "They may not admit it," says Prof. Rutter, "but they're all out there looking now."

45 posted on 02/19/2007 10:45:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 15, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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