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California Congressman Picks Up Pro-Life Mantle (Duncan Hunter for President Alert)
The Bulletin ^ | 01/25/2007 | Joe Murray

Posted on 01/25/2007 1:30:04 PM PST by GulfBreeze

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To: narses

"I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights," (Rudolph, et. al.)

You nailed it. Great post


121 posted on 01/25/2007 9:01:24 PM PST by TheeOhioInfidel ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." - Winston Churchill on Islam.)
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To: Dave S
There a lot more issues at stake than abortion. Any candidate running on that narrow an agenmda is simply out of touch. That is one of the problems, too many people see everything on the basis of a single issue.

Gee! I can't think of any other issue that concerns me! Certainly not victory in Iraq, Nuclear Iran or North Korea, Universal Health Care, Higher taxes, Gun control Confiscation, terrorism, immigration.

122 posted on 01/25/2007 9:06:33 PM PST by dvan
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To: Lexinom

By the time a woman has signs of an eptopic, the tube has usually ruptured and the baby is lost. At this point the best you can hope for is to save the mother. Very different from an abortion.


123 posted on 01/25/2007 9:07:36 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: dvan

I care about all of those too . Border Patrol is particularly important. What one issue would keep you from voting for someone though?. Everyone has one and I guess that puts us all out of touch , in someones eyes. We just have to live with it.


124 posted on 01/25/2007 9:14:26 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Just A Nobody

Thanks for answering my question. Having only seen him on T.V., I wondered if he was better in person. I do NOT find him
to be a good speaker on T.V. and that is a major problem for any candidate.


125 posted on 01/25/2007 9:46:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lexinom
Simple name recognition, by the American populace, has NOTHING at all to do with how many times his name is posted to FR.

Getting the nomination, is a long, hard slog, and takes a LOT of doing; not to mention 100s of millions of dollars and a great team.

126 posted on 01/25/2007 9:49:59 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"It would take me at least 6 months to even give you a simple education in economics and business; so forget it."

Spare me the superiority complex. The "Free Trade" vs. "Fair Trade" debate has been argued very intelligently on both sides on FR for a long time now, and we obviously have a difference in philosophy. I respect your position but refuse to wear the absolute protectionist label. Ron Paul, who I don't support as a candidate, is one who admits as a Libertarian - writing for a website that is ardently free trade - that you don't have to be a "protectionist" to oppose NAFTA and CAFTA. It's most often the "free traders" who throw around the protectionist argument as an across the board label. And BTW, after you just claimed how civil you were to the Hunterites, you assert that: "your mind is closed, anyway, so I won't even give you a Cliff's Notes version." How exceedingly smug!


127 posted on 01/25/2007 9:52:02 PM PST by TheeOhioInfidel ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." - Winston Churchill on Islam.)
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To: RebekahT
BRAVA!

But the protectionist message will NOT be lost on Wall Street, big business, entrepreneurs, and many people whom Hunter needs to win over to win the primary; let alone a general election.

128 posted on 01/25/2007 9:53:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Just A Nobody

129 posted on 01/25/2007 9:54:57 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: All

I have decided. I have no quandary to deal with at all.

If this guy Hunter can raise money and get nominated, fine. I don't care. If Rudi gets selected, fine. I don't care. McCain? Sounds okay to me. Romney? Great. Sounds fine to me. Brownback? Okay.

I am voting STRICTLY on principle this cycle. I am sending money STRICTLY on principle this cycle. And you know what that principle is? The most admirable, noble and fundamental principal that can exist.

HILLARY MUST BE BEATEN. THE ONLY CRITERION FOR A GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IS THE ABILITY TO ERASE THAT LEFT WING, DECEITFUL TRAITOR FROM EVER ASSUMING THE PRESIDENCY.

If the GOP nominee chooses to be pro choice to do that, I don't care. If he becomes pro illegals to do that, I don't care. If he wants tax increases across the board, I don't care. All that matters is beating her. Wherever the GOP nominee is on the ideology spectrum does not matter in comparison to the TOTAL IMPERATIVE of keeping that quintessential traitor out of the White House.

THAT is a principled stand.


130 posted on 01/25/2007 9:56:14 PM PST by Owen
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To: freedomfiter2

But they continue to do it. Perhaps you can call a meeting and get them to cease doing so? :-)


131 posted on 01/25/2007 9:56:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: GulfBreeze

Hunter's candidacy is great news for conservatives as they will now actually have a primary candidate to support who doesn't share Hillary Clinton's ideology.


132 posted on 01/25/2007 9:58:35 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Lexinom

The tension you spoke of is between the idealists/economic purists and the real-world pragmatists.


Thanks. You spell it out much more clearly.


133 posted on 01/25/2007 9:59:24 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (“No, I have not supported that," Guiliani when asked about a ban on partial birth abortion)
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To: RebekahT

"Wow. I don't know where to begin. But I will say that "protecting American manufacturing" is completely ridiculous. The market replaces those jobs, hence our unemployment rates going down."

The market's doing a wonderful job here in NE Ohio at providing new jobs at Quiznos, Pakatans, and Wal Mart. No offense, but this basic understanding of economics you set forth sounds like something out of an introductory Macro textbook. When we outsource a job to a 3rd world country, the manufacturing process ceases to take place in a purely market system by virtue of the simple fact that most of those countries are not representative republics. That's why you can pay someone substandard wages there - they have no other choice. The free market becomes global and tainted by the forces within authoritarian countries. Free markets presuppose free players.


134 posted on 01/25/2007 10:01:29 PM PST by TheeOhioInfidel ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." - Winston Churchill on Islam.)
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To: nopardons

But they continue to do it. Perhaps you can call a meeting and get them to cease doing so? :-)\


I've been married for 23 years. I'm getting pretty good at not noticing things that annoy me. Although that Duncan Hines thing is so childish after 20 times that I'll have to work on that one.


135 posted on 01/25/2007 10:09:02 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (“No, I have not supported that," Guiliani when asked about a ban on partial birth abortion)
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To: TheeOhioInfidel
Oh yes, it has been discussed and debated, but since you've been here less than TWO YEARS, you've missed a lot of it; unless you are a retread.

And those who argue for protectionism continually lose the debate and so will Hunter, IF he ever gets into that area, in the primaries. That kind of populism attracts more Dems, than it does Conservatives and NO Dems can vote in most primary elections.

I'm not talking about NAFTA nor CAFTA. Hunter is a protectionist and talks about it in other terms, than just those two alphabet lettered things. His anachronistic positions are all wrong for the 21rst century.

That repluy, was CIVIL. I did NOT call anyone any names. I did NOT play any games with Duncan's name. Neither did I post a photoshopped picture nor any of the other usual Hunterite tactics.

And no, NOT "smug" at all; just a reasonable statement of why I wasn't going to waste my my time. And lookee lookeee...it was proved to be a valid statement after all. :-)

136 posted on 01/25/2007 10:09:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Owen

BRAVO !

That is THE singularly MOST principled post made to FR, that I have seen in the past TEN years!

137 posted on 01/25/2007 10:11:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You are welcome. I watched the clip someone, you?, posted. It did not sound anything like the way I remember him last year.

More time in front of a camera and I'm sure he will be great! BTW, there are some veterans groups standing by to support him, if that counts for anything. ;*)

138 posted on 01/25/2007 10:13:57 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: freedomfiter2
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, yes, you mind when it's done to YOUR guy, but when it is done ( and much worse ) 1,000s of times to Rudy, by rabid Hunterites, that, THAT doesn't bother you one teensy bit! LOL
139 posted on 01/25/2007 10:14:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"And no, NOT "smug" at all; just a reasonable statement of why I wasn't going to waste my my time. And lookee lookeee...it was proved to be a valid statement after all. :-)"

Like I said, Smug. But that's okay, us simple folk can't keep up with such penetrating intellectual accumen.


140 posted on 01/25/2007 10:18:55 PM PST by TheeOhioInfidel ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world." - Winston Churchill on Islam.)
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