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Rep. Duncan Hunter Officially Launches 2008 Bid
NewsMax/AP ^ | Thursday, Jan. 25, 2007 8:03 a.m. EST | Not Listed

Posted on 01/25/2007 5:42:41 AM PST by GulfBreeze

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To: GulfBreeze

That's great, but the MSM has already selected McCain and Guiliani as our candidates. He may have to wait until next time around.


222 posted on 01/25/2007 1:32:30 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: sandyeggo

Better than Duncan Hines ain't it?


223 posted on 01/25/2007 1:42:05 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: GulfBreeze

Excellent post.

Bookmarked for further action.


224 posted on 01/25/2007 1:50:28 PM PST by kidd
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To: tomcorn

This thread, in addition to promoting Duncan Hunter's candidacy, has given us a very good window as to who FR's conservatives and liberals are.


225 posted on 01/25/2007 1:50:47 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

You're dead-on Old_Mill. Those who count Duncan out at this stage are just silly people. Those of us who have been in tough grass-roots SUCCESSFUL campaigns know that name and money at this stage aren't determinative.

Hunter is worth a very close look at this stage and let’s see if he can catch a little wind in his sails. There are still PLENTY of wealthy conservatives that haven't found their home yet - not with McCain, Romney, and Rudi as the top dogs right now.


226 posted on 01/25/2007 1:56:48 PM PST by mek1959
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To: Old_Mil

I think is points out there are more than one kind of conservative. There are the culture warrior conservatives ( I call them the single digit types) and then there are the traditional conseravtives interested in low taxes, small government and liberty. ( the double digit types)

Given the midterm election, the culture warriors like Hunter are doomed during this election cycle. The Culture warriors call the traditionalists RINOS. So be it...But the Rinos are now driving the GOP bus....


227 posted on 01/25/2007 2:01:42 PM PST by tomcorn
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Hunter will never get into double digits.Frankly If I were a betting man, I'd give you odds he doesn't getter higher than 5% before he goes belly up. Even 5% is being generous.


228 posted on 01/25/2007 2:04:45 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: tomcorn

Those "double digit traditional conservatives" you point out have traditionally gone by another name: Libertarian. We all know how successful they have been in convincing the country about the validity of their GOP fiscal + Dem social point of view.


229 posted on 01/25/2007 3:19:40 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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The beauty of Ronald Reagan is he could talk a good game about abortion, immigration, and the general culture war but in fact he didn't give two hoots in hell about it. He was a traditionalist conservative who was deeply committed to a strong defense, free trade, and law and order and a sound economy. Reagan sounded like a culture warrior but he wasn't. And that was his genius....


230 posted on 01/25/2007 3:30:47 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: tomcorn

I would direct you to Reagan's book, "Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation" if you wish to know how wrong you are in making such a statement. Then again, you already know that before you made it, didn't you.


231 posted on 01/25/2007 6:42:43 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

I would direct you to Reagan's book, "Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation"


It wasn't a book...it was an article written in 1983 for.. NR I believe. It also wasn't written by Reagan. It was ghost written for him by Micheal Deaver. 1983 was the 10th Anniversary of Roe and Pro-life folks were questioning Reagan's pro-life bonafides. Deaver's article was the response.

Now....if you can point to some tangible thing Reagan did to oppose abortion other than talk about it and provide ghost written articles then I'd be pleased to see it.

Reagan's brillance was he was a traditional conservative who could appear to be a culture warrior.


232 posted on 01/25/2007 6:56:36 PM PST by tomcorn
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It wasn't a book...it was an article written in 1983 for.. NR I believe. It also wasn't written by Reagan. It was ghost written for him by Micheal Deaver. 1983 was the 10th Anniversary of Roe and Pro-life folks were questioning Reagan's pro-life bonafides. Deaver's article was the response.

Take a look: "This is a new edition of the dynamic book first published in 1983; the only book to be published by a U.S. President while he held office. With new photos and all new supporting materials, the original work by President Reagan shines with a timeless, poetic beauty. At a time when concerted efforts are being made to excise President Reagan's legacy from history, his prophetic view of the sanctity of human life, and his commitment to the "integrity of the human person" stands as a beacon of moral leadership."

64 pages long, it is available from Amazon.com. The final 26 pages are Reagan himself expressing his thoughts on the issue, which are very pro life. There are a number of other texts available that clarify his position as well, should you care to read them.

But if you're willing to mischaracterize people like Guliani and McCain as conservatives, I'm not surprised that you're willing to mischaracterize Reagan as something less than one.

Anyhow, this is a thread to support Duncan Hunter's candidacy, and we should get back to doing that. Thank you for this glimpse into the thought processes of a non-conservative that you've given us.
233 posted on 01/25/2007 7:30:02 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

bump


234 posted on 01/25/2007 9:55:38 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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