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Obama debunks claim about Islamic school
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/24/07 | Nedra Pickler - ap

Posted on 01/24/2007 10:39:13 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) fought back Wednesday against an allegation that he was educated at a radical Islamic school as a child in Indonesia, determined to avoid being tripped up by unsubstantiated charges like those that undermined John Kerry in 2004.

Interviews by The Associated Press at the elementary school in Jakarta found that it's a public and secular institution that has been open to students of all faiths since before the White House hopeful attended in the late 1960s.

Obama, who was born in Hawaii, moved to Indonesia at age 6 to live with his mother and stepfather, attending schools in the country until age 10, when he returned to Hawaii to live with his maternal grandparents.

"The allegations are completely baseless," said Akmad Solichin, the vice principal at SDN Menteng 1, who added, "Yes, most of our students are Muslim, but there are Christians as well. Everyone's welcome here ... it's a public school."

A spokesman for Indonesia's Ministry of Religious Affairs said claims that Obama studied at an Islamic school are groundless.

"SDN Menteng 1 is a public primary school that is open to people of all faiths," said the spokesman, Sutopo, who goes by only one name. "Moreover, he studied earlier at Fransiskus Assisi, which is clearly a Catholic school."

The contention that Obama was educated at a radical Muslim madrassa surfaced on the Web site of the conservative Insight magazine the day after Obama announced he was jumping into the 2008 presidential race. Conservative Internet blogs and the Fox News Channel picked up the story and spread the charges just as his candidacy was getting off the ground.

Obama on Wednesday called the reports "scurrilous," and his communications director e-mailed reporters a lengthy memo attempting to set the record straight.

"I think they recognize that the notion that me going to school in Indonesia for two years at a public school there at the age of 7 and 8 is probably not going to be endangering in some way the people of America," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

The push-back was a signal Obama would fight to protect his reputation in the presidential campaign.

Many Democrats argued that Kerry's failure to challenge aggressively his critics in the 2004 presidential race cost him in his effort to unseat President Bush. A group with conservative ties, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, charged that Kerry did not deserve the medals he won in the Vietnam War — despite his combat record of bravery and valor. Kerry announced Wednesday that he will not run again in 2008.

"We will not be swift-boated," said Obama communications director Robert Gibbs. "And we won't take allegations that are patently untrue lying down."

Obama's mother, divorced from Obama's father, married a man from Indonesia named Lolo Soetoro, and the family relocated to the country from 1967-71. At first, Obama attended the Catholic school, Fransiskus Assisis, where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather.

The document required that each student choose one of five state-sanctioned religions when registering — Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic or Protestant. Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

"Senator Obama has never been a Muslim," Gibbs said. "As a six-year-old in Catholic school, he studied the catechism."

The Illinois senator is a member of the United Church of Christ.

Iis Darmawan, 63, Obama's kindergarten teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said.

Obama later transferred to SDN Menteng 1 — the elite, secular elementary school at the center of the controversy. The school is public but is very competitive and has exceptionally high standards. It is located in one of the most affluent parts of Jakarta and attracts mostly middle- to upper-class students, among them several of former dictator Suharto's grandchildren.

Indonesia is home to several of the most radical Islamic schools in Southeast Asia, some with alleged terrorist links. But Solichin, who proudly pointed to a photo of a young Barry Obama, as he was known, said his school is not one of them.

Those tied to the school say they are proud to have had a student like Obama, and hope that, if he is elected president, his ties to Indonesia will broaden his world perspective and his views on religion.

Sri Murtiningsih, who retired from Menteng 1 recently after 39 years of teaching, said she has vivid memories of the left-handed boy who followed a standard curriculum of math, writing, and language, together with twice-weekly religious affairs classes and sports.

Murtiningsih said neighbors ran to her house after seeing a television report about his intention to run for president.

"They were yelling, 'Your old student is going to take Bush's job!'" she said. "Tears filled my eyes."

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McDowell and Associated Press reporters Ali Kotarumalos and Zakki Hakim contributed to this report from Jakarta, Indonesia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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To: NormsRevenge
where documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim, the religion of his stepfather

Wolf in sheep's clothing.

21 posted on 01/24/2007 11:33:22 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Sound like it need more independent investigation.


"Obama's kindergarten teacher...sharp math skills" ???

This sound a bit strange as 'math' in kindergarten isnt usually too advanced (rosy 40 year old memories ??)
22 posted on 01/24/2007 11:34:20 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: wodinoneeye

Is counting to 10 now called math?


23 posted on 01/25/2007 12:10:38 AM PST by sbMKE
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To: NormsRevenge
A little different description of his stepfather & the schooling.

"When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a radical Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia.

And a comparison to Osama & his schooling!

" Osama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the radical teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Obama attended a Muslim school in Jakarta."

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion?bid=15&page=2

24 posted on 01/25/2007 12:20:14 AM PST by blondee123
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To: CurlyDave

More good reading here!

http://www.rightnation.us/forums/index.php?showtopic=115764


25 posted on 01/25/2007 12:30:05 AM PST by blondee123
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To: wodinoneeye

I'm no math prodigy, but I knew how to multiply and divide in kindergarten (thanks to my sister). It wouldn't take much to stand out from the crowd at that age.


26 posted on 01/25/2007 12:37:53 AM PST by amchugh
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To: NormsRevenge
Just how much do I trust Osama Hussein Obama and the Indonesian liars paid off by the democrats?

To quote a named source above who is to be trusted: " Obama's kindergarten teacher, remembers him as an exceptionally tall and curly haired child who quickly picked up the local language and had sharp math skills. "He wrote an essay titled, 'I Want To Become President,'" the teacher said."

In kindergarten Hussein wrote essays about becoming president, learned a foreign language, and excelled in math."

Right, I believe the whole article. Look at all the documentation they provided, scanned, copied, photographed, provided on film, tape, CD, DVD, .pdf.

yitbos

27 posted on 01/25/2007 12:42:30 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: NormsRevenge

All those years married to Bubba and Hillary can't come up with a better smear campaign than this?


28 posted on 01/25/2007 12:43:36 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: Liberty Valance

I don't think Reagan was left handed.


29 posted on 01/25/2007 12:43:42 AM PST by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: arthurus

So why did he change his name from Barry Soetoro?


30 posted on 01/25/2007 2:02:02 AM PST by D-fendr
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To: amchugh
"I'm no math prodigy, but I knew how to multiply and divide in kindergarten (thanks to my sister). It wouldn't take much to stand out from the crowd at that age."



That does sound pretty advanced though for kindergarten...

Multiplication tables memorized ... division is a bit more advanced (long division ??)

The other quote above say he was 6 when he went there (in the US 5 years old is typical kindergarten age...)
31 posted on 01/25/2007 2:20:31 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
"All those years married to Bubba and Hillary can't come up with a better smear campaign than this?"



Obama wasnt in office when she had all those FBI files .....
32 posted on 01/25/2007 2:23:50 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: NormsRevenge
Gibbs said he wasn't sure why the document had Obama listed as a Muslim.

I'm sure CNN or AP will help answer that question! :^)

33 posted on 01/25/2007 2:26:45 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: NormsRevenge
LET THE GAMES BEGIN
Watch how the Klintoons attempt to balme everything on the "Mean" Ole Republicans for digging up dirt on MO-BOMA
34 posted on 01/25/2007 2:28:14 AM PST by DeaconRed (If it weren't for the United States Military-There would be NO United States of America.)
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To: Liberty Valance
Bush 41 and X 42 are both left handed as well. Not that it means anything. It might be interesting to research how many past Presidents or candidates were left handed.

Bush 41, Clinton and Perot (1992 election) were all left handed!

35 posted on 01/25/2007 2:29:21 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: Liberty Valance
"...she has vivid memories of the left-handed boy who followed a standard curriculum of math, writing..."

How can you forget someone with ears that BIG? Even after 40 years... :0)

36 posted on 01/25/2007 2:31:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Has anyone seen his birth certificate and verified it???
37 posted on 01/25/2007 2:36:30 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: bruinbirdman

This is reported by AP, who trusts them?


38 posted on 01/25/2007 2:41:47 AM PST by patj
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To: NormsRevenge
I really don't think this is going to be an effective line of attack on Obama. He has the media on his side and they'll believe him.

What Obama cannot deny, and what the media will have more difficulty glossing over, is the fact that he's a total neophyte. He is too inexperienced to have the power to blow up the world.

Regards, Ivan

39 posted on 01/25/2007 2:47:14 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan; tiger-one; NormsRevenge
The media will only be able to carry him so far.

He does not have much longer.

I've managed so far to dig up quite a bit already.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

40 posted on 01/25/2007 3:00:26 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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