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Imprisoned agent's wife: President is a hypocrite
WorldNetDaily ^ | January 24, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:23 AM PST by NapkinUser

Calls State of the Union speech 'total sellout of the United States of America to Mexico'

Monica Ramos, the wife of one of two U.S. Border Patrol agents imprisoned last week for wounding an escaping drug smuggler, attended the State of the Union speech in person last night – and was sharply critical of President Bush, calling him a hypocrite and worse.

Ramos, wife of Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos, attended the event as a guest of Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean began prison sentences last week, of 11 and 12 years respectively, for their actions in the shooting and wounding of a Mexican drug smuggler who was granted full immunity to testify against them.

At the conclusion of the speech, Ramos, emotional and in tears, told WND in an exclusive interview, that she considered President Bush's speech compete hypocrisy.

"How could President Bush say that he wanted to secure our borders and that he would double the size of the Border Patrol when my husband is in prison," she asked WND. "Ignacio was trying to secure our border from drug smugglers. And what do we get? I have to show my children their father in prison in chains and I have to explain to them that the president of the United States is a liar."

WND waited nearly an hour after the speech was concluded to be able to speak with a clearly emotionally upset Monica Ramos.

"President Bush can say all he wants that the solution to border security is new infrastructure and technology," Ramos told WND, "but as long as my husband is in jail the American people should know that President Bush doesn't mean a word he says."

"What I sat in the gallery and heard tonight," she said, "was a total sell-out of the United States of America to Mexico. I heard President Bush's message loud and clear. All the president has to offer is electronic gadgets. Meanwhile, our borders are wide open to illegal immigrants, criminals and drug smugglers. God help the honest men and women of the Border Patrol who want to do their duty. It's a losing battle – just ask my husband, he'll tell you the truth."

"The American people only need to ask me," Ramos pleaded to WND. "Tell America that President Bush doesn't mean a word of what he says about border security. My husband is in jail for trying to capture a drug smuggler and President Bush wants electronics? My husband is a hero and President Bush is a traitor as far as I'm concerned. Let him tell my children that he wants new 'infrastructure' or 'comprehensive immigration reform' when their dad who wore the Border Patrol badge for years is shackled and in chains for doing his job."

Rohrabacher agreed with Ramos, emphasizing to WND that "the Bush administration has a hidden agenda with Mexico and that agenda is to keep our border with Mexico wide open, even to drug smugglers."

Asked what message he wanted to send by inviting Ramos' wife to attend the speech in person, Rohrabacher explained: "I wanted to give Mrs. Ramos the opportunity to be in the room and look President Bush right in the face, knowing that this was the man who was destroying her life by his decision to prosecute her husband to the hilt."

Rohrabacher described the injustice he perceived in emotional terms: "By prosecuting these two Border Patrol agents while the drug smuggler is given immunity, President Bush has brutalized the lives of agents Ramos and Compean with a decision that threatens to destroy their families. The wives and the young children of these two Border Patrol agents are now being driven into poverty. The families have no health insurance, they are now losing their homes, and they face a mountain of debt to lawyers. This is a travesty of justice and a personal tragedy that should make President Bush ashamed.

Asked if he had achieved his purpose in inviting Monica Ramos to attend the speech, Rohrabacher told WND:

My purpose after hearing the State of the Union tonight is doubly resolved. President Bush needs to know that we will not rest until Border Patrol [officers] Ramos and Compean are set free.

In history there are cases where heroic people were brutalized and sacrificed by political powers in order to achieve a certain agenda. In this case, I think that's what's happening.

We have an administration that has a hidden agenda with Mexico such that George Bush wants an open border, even though an open border is not in the interests of the American people.

These Border Patrol agents are caught in the middle. They're Americans and they know what their job is supposed to be. They are being persecuted and prosecuted for our sake because they are getting in the way of a power play that has yet been disclosed to the public.

It brutalizes the lives and destroys the families of men who have been willing to sacrifice their lives for us for the last five and 10 years. This is both a tragedy and a travesty.

The continued insistence of the administration to prosecute these Border Patrol agents and to put them in jail and to shackle them and see the families of these men being driven into destitution – this indicates that there has been a decision right at the top that's based on arrogance and cruelty that I think unfortunately reflects our president. It's a side of the president that is now coming out.

We get calls back from the underlings, the assistant congressional liaison officers. This president doesn't return phone calls and he is arrogant and nasty and doesn't treat people very well, not even members of Congress.

The statement we're trying to make is that the president's policy along the border is responsible for murders, drug dealers and terrorists entering the country, millions of illegals. His policy has resulted in the undermining of those law enforcement officers guarding the border, he has totally demoralized the Border Patrol, and in the process of him trying to send a message to the Border Patrol he's destroying the lives of two families. … This person looking right into the face of the president in the same room, this mother of three, her life is being destroyed by President Bush's decision to fully prosecute to the hilt her husband.

American citizens need to rally around these two Border Patrol agents and should call the White House directly to register their protest to this travesty of justice.

President Bush made no reference to the Border Patrol case in a 50-minute speech that focused on domestic issues in the first half and international issues in the second half.

Monica Ramos told WND she was in Washington, D.C., to attend a meeting yesterday afternoon with concerned congressmen.

At least 70 members of the House have signed on to a resolution ordering a congressional pardon that would toss out the convictions and immediately free the former agents.

Monica Ramos described her first meeting with her husband in prison as "heart breaking."

Ramos confirmed the account provided WND by her father, Joe Loya. She acknowledged her husband is being held in solitary confinement in a 6-by-12 foot cell, without windows. Ignacio Ramos is not being allowed any exercise time, and he is shackled every time he leaves his cell.

"This may be for his protection from other inmates," Monica Ramos acknowledged to WND, "but this is abusive. They are treating my husband like the worst hardened criminal imaginable."

She said one of her three young children is so disturbed by the imprisonment that the family has decided to seek counseling for the child.

"My children are planning to visit their father for the first time this Friday," she said, expressing concern. "This will be the first time they see their dad shackled in chains, when they are used to seeing me send him off in his badge and uniform."

The couple's youngest child is 7 years old, the others are aged 9 and 13.

"My youngest child wanted to know if we could order pizza for dad in prison," Monic Ramos said. "No, I told him. Let's wait and have pizza night when daddy gets home."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Wasn't there also some nasty business about hiding spent shells?


361 posted on 01/24/2007 5:14:39 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

That's right. This thread needs to be a Border Patrol bashing thread, and with your efforts it will be one. Puto.


362 posted on 01/24/2007 5:16:01 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: 1rudeboy

You know the suspect was unarmed?


363 posted on 01/24/2007 5:17:09 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: Pelham

According to the testimony of Compean and Ramos themselves. From the time the smuggler was in the ditch, to the time he crossed the border.


364 posted on 01/24/2007 5:21:05 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: P-Marlowe
A leader would have insisted that Berger go to jail for the rest of his life and made it clear that purloining classified documents at a time of war is an act of war.

On the other hand, a smart leader would realize that the maximum penalty Berger faced was a year in jail, and that he shouldn't get involved in a criminal prosecution.

365 posted on 01/24/2007 5:23:37 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Compean and Ramos testified the smuggler was unarmed, and trying to surrender.

What is that, the Bill Clinton School of Reporting version? Just make up whatever sounds good for your argument?

The agents testified that they believed the smuggler had a gun. And far from "trying to surrender" he was fighting with one of the agents as he was fleeing back over the border.

366 posted on 01/24/2007 5:27:08 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
What lengths will you go to to defend George Bush? What principles will you sell out?

There are two camps in politics that completely perplex me:

Those that are so hateful of G. Bush that they will attack him and disagree with him to the point of endangering America. Just because he is George Bush.

And Those that are so beholden to G. Bush and the republicans that they will support him and defend him to the point of endangering America. Just because he is George Bush.

367 posted on 01/24/2007 5:32:19 PM PST by Washi (Support the country you live in, or go live in the country you support.)
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To: 1rudeboy; xzins; blue-duncan; jude24
On the other hand, a smart leader would realize that the maximum penalty Berger faced was a year in jail, and that he shouldn't get involved in a criminal prosecution.

Not necessarily. That may be the maximum for the charge he pled guilty to, but I'm certain there are a number of other laws, including conspiracy and even espionage that could have been brought.

The fact is that the documents he purloined were directly relevant to the war on terror. They were classified. They were needed by the 911 commission in order to secure the safety of the citizens of this nation and by stealing them Berger attempted to mislead the 911 commission. That would be at the least an obstruction of justice violation.

I suspect that with his statement that it was an "honest mistake" they could have charged Berger with lying to the FBI, the same charge that Scooter Libby is being prosecuted for.

Slapping Berger on the wrist is simply a sign of weakness. Our enemies can read our weakness. They know when we do not have the resolve to be ruthless enough to defeat them.

368 posted on 01/24/2007 5:32:56 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: 1rudeboy
On February 17, 2005, Ramos and Compean were patrolling the border town of Fabens, Texas, when a Mexican illegal alien and drug smuggler, attempted to secret nearly 800 pounds of marijuana into the United States in his van. Agent Compean chased Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila by vehicle and on foot, ordering him to stop. Compean says Aldrete-Davila ignored him, pushed him down, and assaulted him, whereupon the agent called for backup, drawing seven additional units, including Ramos. When he arrived on the scene, he heard gunfire, saw Compean bleeding on the ground, and the fugitive – still refusing to stop as commanded – stealing furtive glances over his shoulder while holding something shiny he believed to be a handgun. Both state they felt threatened, and both fired rounds in the alien’s direction, Ramos striking him in the buttocks. The alien got away, but the two men had jeopardized their own well-being to keep his noxious contraband off our streets....

http://www.nbpc.net/ramos_compean/frontpagemag.htm

369 posted on 01/24/2007 5:34:33 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: Pelham

Pretty damn embarrassing when you've already resorted to throwing-around insults like "Bill Clinton" this, or "Bill Clinton" that, when you haven't even gotten to my comment #85. Step it up.


370 posted on 01/24/2007 5:34:42 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: RobRoy
"What exactly is their crime? In the words of Assistant U.S. Attorney Debra Kanof, “It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing.” That is, if an illegal immigrant – even a drug kingpin or terrorist – flees from a Border Patrol agent, regulations demand that he not further pursue or apprehend the fugitive. Patrol agents acknowledge this procedure is widely disregarded, for obvious reasons. Secondly, both men have said numerous agents were on hand for the shooting and had filed a report, so they did not file a report of their gunfire. Compean also picked up his shells from the scene, though Ramos did not. These actions breach Border Patrol protocol and should be subject to appropriate disciplinary action. Instead, the federal government portrayed Ramos and Compean as bloodthirsty racists and threatened them with 20+ years in prison."

http://www.nbpc.net/ramos_compean/frontpagemag.htm

371 posted on 01/24/2007 5:39:49 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: P-Marlowe
Not necessarily. That may be the maximum for the charge he pled guilty to, but I'm certain there are a number of other laws, including conspiracy and even espionage that could have been brought.

That's what is so annoying about arguing with folks like you. When you make a comment like, "[t]hat may be the maximum for the charge he pled guilty to," it implies that you are aware of the other charges against him. But you can't be bothered to share your knowledge with us. Small wonder why folks start pretending that their opponents are shills of one sort or another. They don't realize that they're talking past them.

372 posted on 01/24/2007 5:45:32 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Lol. It's at least highly amusing to find you crying about insults.

That citation you posted was from the prosecutor, which apparently you believe to be an impartial source. But since that was the prosecutor's charge and not either agents' testimony you'll need to try again. A good place for you to start is at David Horowitz's online magazine:

http://www.nbpc.net/ramos_compean/frontpagemag.htm


373 posted on 01/24/2007 5:47:05 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: 1rudeboy

Thank you for your comment. Please direct the rest of your comments to someone who cares.


374 posted on 01/24/2007 5:47:05 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: LanPB01

FrontPage Magazine might fit your desire for an impartial source:

http://www.nbpc.net/ramos_compean/frontpagemag.htm


375 posted on 01/24/2007 5:50:39 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: P-Marlowe

In other words, you don't know what the hell you're talking about, and just got busted.


376 posted on 01/24/2007 5:51:27 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Pelham

Some irony in the fact that you link leads to the Border Patrol agent's union website.


377 posted on 01/24/2007 5:54:20 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Some irony in the fact that you link leads to the Border Patrol agent's union website.

And what? You think FrontPage Magazine's article has been altered by the Border Patrol union for their website?

I can understand that you would prefer to argue the red herring of where it is posted rather than the inconvenient substance of the information in FrontPage Magazine's article. Its content puts the lie to what you have been peddling:

"The prosecutorial caricature proved so transparent local media rapidly saw through it. The (Ontario, CA) Daily Bulletin provided outstanding coverage of all aspects of the trial, reporting:

[A]n Office of Inspector General memorandum obtained by the Daily Bulletin Tuesday contradicts [Prosecutor] Sutton's claim that Ramos and Compean reported Aldrete-Davila was unarmed. The memorandum of activity was written April 4, 2005, by Christopher Sanchez, the OIG investigator who questioned Compean about the Feb. 17, 2005, shooting. Sanchez was the same agent who went to Mexico to interview Aldrete-Davila, according to documents obtained by the newspaper.

The Sanchez memo notes:

Compean said that Aldrete-Davila continued to look back over his shoulder towards Compean as Aldrete-Davila ran away from him. Compean said that he began to shoot at Aldrete-Davila because of the shiny object he thought he saw in Aldrete-Davila's hand and because Aldrete-Davila continued to look back towards his direction. Compean explained that he thought the shiny object might be a gun and that Aldrete-Davila was going to shoot at him because he kept looking back at him..."

378 posted on 01/24/2007 6:01:44 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: 1rudeboy

Here, see if you can weasel out of this link.

That should be easier for you than trying to dispute the substance of the article:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=26224


379 posted on 01/24/2007 6:06:01 PM PST by Pelham (California, Mexico's HMO)
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To: Pelham

The problem is that your FrontPage piece is not an "article." It is an "editorial."


380 posted on 01/24/2007 6:06:29 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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