Santorum, Boxer exchange defined partial-birth debate

Baptist Press ^ | 01/19/07 | Compiled by Michael Foust

[presidio9]

[Arrowhead1952]

Senator Boxer and most liberal democrats would allow killing any baby, as long as the baby is not a homosexual.

[KellyAdmirer]

That's a classic exchange, and it really shows Boxer up as the obnoxious clown that she is. "You didn't have any" - now that's classic Boxer.

[The Blitherer]

For the life of me, I can't figure out why there are Santorum haters here. Exchanges like this just go to show how he was one of the true lights in congress, and why the Dems focused on getting him out.

[xcullen]

How about how hard she fought giving an answer to this because even she knows it makes no sense. Anyone who would defend this practice should never be trusted.

[Namyak]

Because the one blemish on his record, supporting Specter, was too much for them to bear. They were going to punish this bastion of conservativism, and they did. They showed him. They showed us too. Now we have Casey, who is far better Senator representing our interests in the Senate.

[Arrowhead1952]

She used the typical liberal path, rewording the questions to make her point seem to be OK.

[The Blitherer]

Because the one blemish on his record, supporting Specter, was too much for them to bear

I've heard that from several people who don't like Santorum, but it still just doesn't make sense to me how that one choice can trump his stance on the WOT, his conservative fiscal and moral principles. He's also well-spoken and intelligent. Just doesn't make sense.

[mek1959]

This exchange is exactly why I'm so concerned about the future of our country. Boxer, while a numbskull, is no light-weight in the Senate. How can we possibly imagine that we can win the "hearts and mind" of someone of her ilk? We can't and we're foolish to believe we can.

Our country is dividing out along ideologue lines, this being only one issue. It will take a few years to foment, but there will come a time where the strain of pretend unity will be stretched beyond survival and you will see reemergence of the South Carolina declaration of succession I encourage you all to review. Or try these on for size “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

Hmmmm –

1. Abortion (46 million dead)
2. Excessive taxation (death tax, plus many many others)
3. Assult on the family (no spanking in California)
4. Open boarders
5. Bloated federal government (billions wasted + fraud)
6. Federal government usurping states rights.
7. Imminent Domain (We can take it because we’re bigger)
8. Government Inculcation Programs (read public schools)
9. God tossed out of the culture.
10. Etc, etc.

And for those who will, please spare me the "I'm just a pessimist" routine. Wait till your wallet is emptied with the entitlement drain. For that, just listen to fed chairman Bernanke last week.

I’m still hoping a leader will rise that can bridge the amazingly wide gulf between the tow ideologies; conservatism and liberalism. I sure don’t see one right now.

[007girl]

Call me crazy, but that procedure is murder, plain and simple! If you watched "Multiples in the Womb" on National Geographic, those triplets were alive in the womb. How can these people justify murder by saying that life begins after birth?

[LiveFree99]

Rudy Giuliani is also a very big fan of partial birth abortion.

[Mr. K]

The first doctor who did this should have gotten the gas chamber.

Why not charge one for murder and let it go through the court system.

what kind of monster can kill a baby almost born by sucking out its brain?

why is that a valid part of the procedure? What benefit does that have? How does sucking the brain half way help the mother? Just pull it all the way out- I am sure that would be much less harmful than leaving it stuck halfway and inserting even more tools inside...

[FreedomNeocon]

God I miss Santorum... I sure hope he gets back into politics. I would love if he ran in '08 on some ticket!

Anyone read anything lately on his plans?

[FreedomNeocon]

Yeah no kidding... there were alot of r-tards around here last October/November.

I had attributed alot of the lunacy to trolls from 'other sites', but then come election day the stay-at-homes taught those republicans a lesson on "corruption" or "being conservative" by kicking out Rummy, booting Bolton, cutting funding for the Fence, getting rid of Alan and Santorum and everything else.

Great work guys!

[presidio9]

As much as I hate Rick Santorum, I really do feel like we can trust Bob Casey to keep his word and side with us on abortion. The man is an across the board Catholic, and while I disagree with him on many points, he is not a "give the people what they want" liberal in the mold of Hillary Clinton. He is a graduate of Holy Cross College, one of the more conservative religious institutions in the country, and while he is confused about some economic policies, he agrees with the President a lot more than you'd think. He was honest about his views on abortion, and he too some heat from the left for that, but he stuck to his guns. If he went back on that now, he would be a political "man without a country."

I believe the main reason why he calls himself a Democrat is that to do otherwise would be to dishonor his father, the former governor (also a good man).

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Bob_Casey.htm

[andonte]

Parts of the exchange between Boxer and Santorum appear in Ramesh Ponnuru's book, "The Party of Death." There, as here, Boxer comes across as the troglodyte that she is.

There seems little hope of mending a heart as wretched as hers is.

[presidio9]

Horrible typo in the first line of that post. Should have said "As much as I hate the fact that Rick Santorum is no longer in the Senate...

[FreedomNeocon]

Oh puhhlease.

Casey is a disgrace.

I'm serious... his whole campaign reminded me of that Eddie Murphey movie (The Distinguished Gentlemen) where he had the name of some congressmen who died so he got on the ballet, didn't appear in his commercials, and hoped 'old people' would just say "who did we vote for last time" and click the box.

Thats how Casey ran.

The one time he appeared in a debate (he was afraid to do before and certainly after) on Meet the Press he got owned. He knew nothing, couldn't answer questions and got beat to a pulp.

If daddy wasn't a known name, he wouldn't have had a shot. Alot of good a pro-life guy is in office when he does ABSOULTELY NOTHING about it. (I didn't see him arguing with Boxer, and HARDLY expect it at this point... do you?)

Whats your beef with Santorum anyway... you a troll or a casey staffer or something?

[The Blitherer]

lol, kinda changes it a little ;-)

[andonte]

This week's Weekly Standard has an article about what Rick Santorum and former Maryland governor Bob Ehrlich are doing.

Santorum joined the Ethics and Public Policy Center, in Washington, a think tank that deals with religious and moral issues.

I was very sorry to see him leave the U.S. Senate.