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New Rasmussen Poll: Poll: Giuliani 30% McCain 22%
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Posted on 01/23/2007 7:04:11 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: jammer
My point was that anyone inside the trio of McCain/Romney/Giuliani has precisely zero chance of winning. It's going to be a long eight years.
Well, you're living in a fantasy world devoid of contact with people who don't share your own political views.
There's no sea of 20 million social con voters who sit out EVERY election until they get a candidate that PRECISELY matches all of their views and then they finally come out to vote.
To: areafiftyone
A McCain for President yard sign will NEVER cast it's shadow on my front lawn.
As for Rudy he has what it takes to strike fear in the democrat front runners - but I'm not jumping on his band wagon just yet.
To: Dark Skies
I saw an article with dates last year. I didn't keep the link.
According to it, Rudy dropped out of the race in the early spring, but didn't actually undergo treatment until the late summer, early fall.
That is a disparity that could have significance, especially if the Clinton camp has a bombshell they can explode after the Conventions and before the election.
Politics is dirty, after all. Leave no stone unturned or it could swift boat a candidate.
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posted on
01/23/2007 7:52:26 AM PST
by
TomGuy
To: areafiftyone
One thing I think many miss about Rudy.
He will carry a lot of Democrat votes - just like Reagan did.
His appeal is plain talk (not sound bites), he can speak without a script, his mastery of issues, and he is a leader.
Right now - a lot of people react to what they hear - the real test will come when these folks have to get up on stage and talk to all of us - and the media.
To: Dark Skies
My point is this:
The GOP better know all the skeltons in the closet of whomever they nominate, because, for certain, the Clinton machine will.
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posted on
01/23/2007 7:56:01 AM PST
by
TomGuy
To: TomGuy
According to it, Rudy dropped out of the race in the early spring, but didn't actually undergo treatment until the late summer, early fall. IMO that wouldn't have much of an effect on Rudy's race even if it were somehow injected into the campaign as a negative.
As for Rudy being able to handle the toughness of politics, any person that can take on the mob (as a prosecutor) and win can certainly handle Hillary.
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posted on
01/23/2007 7:59:31 AM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: TomGuy
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posted on
01/23/2007 7:59:57 AM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: areafiftyone
Rudy has the intellect to slice and dice anyone he will come up against in a debate.
To: Loyal Buckeye
Rudy has the intellect to slice and dice anyone he will come up against in a debate.And the sense of humor to appear likeable while doing it. Hillary will look like a wooden indian next to him.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:05:40 AM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: TomGuy
The GOP better know all the skeltons in the closet of whomever they nominate, because, for certain, the Clinton machine will.
I think Rudy has some serious skeleton issues, which why of all the candidates who have "exploratory committees" to consider running fro president I think he is the only one who really hasn't decided yet. (Newt by the way will never run and knows it - look for Newt to endorse Romney later in the year - you read it hear first.)
But America may be beyond the skeleton age. I am not sure there is any scandalous thing a man can have done that will keep him from winning an election anymore. The public is:
A) More forgiving
B) Less moral themselves
C) Cynical and skeptical of all negative politics
Unless there is literally a dead body that comes forward I don't think Rudy would be hurt long term by his skeletons. The same is true for McCain, Richardson, and Hillary who all have the same sorts of problems. I may sell a lot of t-shirts about the scandals, the Free Republic and Democrat Underground may buzz themselves to death, but the American Sheeple don't care.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:09:13 AM PST
by
azcap
To: RebelBanker
Not exactly my first and second choice either!
Unfortunately, the process is now such that any potential candidate must spend a couple of years building up money and support. Not sure if this is directly related to CFR or just the way things have evolved. I suppose it is still possible for a 'dark horse' candidate to come in and knock everyone's socks off but it would just about take a miracle for someone who has not started working on their candidacy to do that now.
Therein lies the problem - the people who would probably be true Conservative candidates and who would make great Conservative Presidents don't have the resources and powerbases that the Guilianis and McCains of the world have.
To: Strategerist
You do not ned 20 million, only 1% to 3% in a few swing states and Rino Rudy loses. Electorial college.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:09:27 AM PST
by
Hydroshock
( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
To: Hydroshock
Just curious, who is the candidate you believe can win in the general election?
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:12:06 AM PST
by
Dark Skies
("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
To: Blackirish
That less than 1% for Hunter is the 'massive' impact that Free Republic has on the electorate.
Outside of this forum, Hunter has as much chance as the Titanic raising itself off the bottom of the Atlantic.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:14:49 AM PST
by
PSYCHO-FREEP
(Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
To: azcap
Just a yell sank Howard Dean.
Swiftboats sank John Kerry.
Macaca sank George Allen.
Don't underestimate the frivolousness of the American people.
The color of someone's necktie or the part in their hair could make or break a candidate.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:17:10 AM PST
by
TomGuy
To: areafiftyone
Will you add me to your Rudy ping list, please? Thank you!
To: Dark Skies
I am supporting Duncan Hunter.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:21:56 AM PST
by
Hydroshock
( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
To: areafiftyone
Oh gee, another worthless poll.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:22:59 AM PST
by
upchuck
(Wanted: Conservatives to go read this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1771175/posts)
To: PSYCHO-FREEP
We shall see, alot can happenin a year. Remember in the second half of 2003 adn everyone swore Dean was going to get the rat nod.
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:24:29 AM PST
by
Hydroshock
( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
To: Dark Skies
IIRC, he was the first of the potential candidates to come out in full support of the Prez and the surge.Good!
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posted on
01/23/2007 8:24:37 AM PST
by
frogjerk
(REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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