Prez-Minded Rudy To Shed Finance Biz

"The most Conservative among us, in their pique, have handed both houses of Congress to the shameful, Christ-hating, America-hating Liberals, and now they're about to hand the White House back to the Clintons."

I won't lay down my values simply so you can have who you want.

Been hearing that for a loooong time now...tick...tick....tick....tick....

The most Conservative among us, in their pique, have handed both houses of Congress to the shameful, Christ-hating, America-hating Liberals

I guess that's why moderates and swing voters went to the Dems in 2006.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. If the GOP wants to hold the base AND draw Reagan Democrats back to the party, they need to start acting like Republicans and show they will not abuse their power again like they did over the last few years with rampant earmark growth.

Well said, dirtboy.

Rudy is fiscally Conservative, though, but I didn't get into his positives.

It wasn't the conservative voter who handed away the mid-terms, it was the squishy middle, as always; people who have no set opinions and blow with the wind.

It's amazing to see such disdain for conservatives on a conservative leaning forum. Some act as if the word 'conservative' leaves a bad taste in their mouths.

You again! You were saying the same thing yesterday on another thread, and it's just as invalid today as it was yesterday.

Well, you can do your smack-talking all you want at this point -- that's your right. But if Rudy gets the nomination and he's running against Her Heinous, any such trash-talk into the fall of '08 will be viewed (by me, at least) as pro-Hillary talk.

There are many like us, Hydroshock.

I for one would work my rear off, until I could work no more, trying to get a Conservative alternative to Hillary Giuliani on the ballot.

I can tell you - as a member of two well-known grassroots, Conservative organizations here in Illinois, there would be many of us in a frenzy to support a third-party candidate. A few of the folks I know are already making their "lists," so to speak, of possible third-party candidates (Alan Keyes is a favorite, having won nearly 1.4 million votes in 2004 vs. the unbeatable Barrack Hussein Obama).

There are three things certain in life right now:
Death,
Taxes,
and that Rudy Giuliani will get flanked from the right if he wins the nod - and will lose the election.

I promise you, there are so many of us who will pour our hearts and souls into making sure we have a Conservative alternative to Rudy, rather than sacrifice a hoard of issues we believe in and have worked for years to promote.

We can recover from Hitlery, and beat her in four years. We cannot recover from Rudy, and what his nomination would mean to the issues we've worked so hard for for so long. We'd never see the issues addressed ever again. Once that flood gate is opened, and the GOP proves it can nominate a Liberal and win - we'll never see another Conservative again.

The situation is too dire to let Rudy win. There will be an option - Rudy-ophiles, heed our warnings!!!!!!

My father voted for Keyes in 2004. Obama has grown on him. A side effect of CBS 2 Chicago news. He is unimpressed with Rudy McRomney. He says he will vote for Obama for President. He figures why vote for RINOs when you can get the real thing in a Dim.

As for me, I am tempted to do the same.

Well than, Like Father Like Son, I posted over 3 years ago 08 was going to go in more of a Lib Direction,"What America Wants America Gets" but still (I know it sucks) We can Trust Rudy , thats the bottom line, when it comes to FIGHTING THE ENEMY

A close look at Rudy, from last summer:

Rudolph W. Giuliani (the Useful Idiot Candidate----liberal to the core)
PUBLISHED SOURCES | 7/14/06 | RESEARCH COURTESY OF JLA
Posted on 07/14/2006 12:54:19 PM CDT by Liz
Rudy Guiliani has marched in lockstep with liberals on affirmative action, gay rights, gay marriage, gun control, school prayer, tuition tax credits, liberal immigration policies, and he's reinforced it, time and time again. Just about everytime Rudy opens his mouth, offensive liberal words come pouring out. As Mayor, Rudy put liberals in high-paid city jobs, an indication what a Rudy WH would look like. Here then is Rudy in his own words:
--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989
--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992
--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989
--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett
--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997
--On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
--Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, Rudy said: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett, Page 459
---Rudy Giuliani Endorses Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo October 1994: "From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ˜Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo." Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City book by Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133
--Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo: "Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state." "But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed." Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994
--"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party." Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party, CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994
--On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights: "National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, "Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." New York Daily News, May 13, 1998
--On Gay-Rights/Gay Rights Bill: Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately. "I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action." ".......It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment." New York Post, June 5, 1993
--Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office. Ray Kerrison New York Post, June 30, 1993
--Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal." quoting Ray Kerrison New York Post, July 7, 1989
--On Gay Domestic Partnership: "I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership," said Rudy Giuliani on Informed Sources New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992
--On Abortion: Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing. New York Times, June 18, 1993.
--Rudy Guiliani on abortion: "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."
--"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade." Rudy Giuliani, New York Newsday, September 1, 1989
--As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. New York Times, August 4, 1989
--On Partial Birth Abortion: Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure. New York Times, January 7, 1998
--On School Choice: "He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993
--On Taxes: [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989
--On Rudy's 2008 candidacy: "That dream of Rudy Giuliani as the man of 2008 was a fantasy created in New York City, and not something that is an accepted reality to anyone who knows the national Republican Party or even Washington Republicans," said the former White House official. "That’s the joke of this." Ben Smith, page 17 The New York Observer 12/20/2004 edition.

Think whatever you want.

I, and many other conservatives, will stick to our convictions.

If the Republican leadership is so foolish as to pick a RINO turd (actually, on many levels, WORSE than a dem turd) to run for the highest office in the land, then OH WELL.

It's not too late for them to back a true conservative who CAN win if given the proper support, financing, and advertising.

Well said.