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25 Years On, Falklands Vets Are Outcast At Home (Argentina)
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 1-21-2007 | Andres Schipani

Posted on 01/20/2007 4:34:38 PM PST by blam

25 years on, Falklands vets are outcast at home

As teenagers they were conscripted to fight for Argentina. Now they remain haunted by memory and struggle to live normal lives

Andres Schipani in Buenos Aires
Sunday January 21, 2007
The Observer (UK)

As the train pulls into the central station of Buenos Aires, Jose is still walking down the aisle hawking a clutch of goods. An olive-green jacket, a patch with an Argentinian flag on his right arm, and a silhouette of the Malvinas Islands signal he is one of the many veterans of the Falklands war supplementing their meagre pensions. What he sells is patriotism - small calendars and stickers bearing the slogan: 'The Malvinas were, are and always will be Argentinian.'

But he tells a story of betrayal, of himself and 15,000 other veterans of the 1982 war with Britain. In a voice made automatic by repetition, he says: 'A little help please, I am a veteran of the Malvinas, I have been repeatedly denied jobs simply for being a veteran, my pension is not always enough, I have been forgotten by my country for a long time.' He has been saying it for 25 years. It is a story repeated by most veterans. Things have improved, but very late. The most important change came in 1991, when some veterans finally began to receive pensions. The next milestone was the election in 2003 of Nestor Kirchner. He became President on the back of promises on human rights, and increased the pension so the veterans felt able to pull down the green tents they had pitched in front of the government building on the Plaza de Mayo, protesting at lack of compensation and healthcare on the same spot where thousands congregated in April 1982 to cheer the

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: argentina; falklands; outcasts; vets

1 posted on 01/20/2007 4:34:39 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
What's the Argentine word for Tommy?
2 posted on 01/20/2007 4:42:47 PM PST by csvset
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To: blam
'The Malvinas were, are and always will be Argentinian.'

Uhhhh, no.

3 posted on 01/20/2007 4:46:40 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: blam

Well, the Royal Navy isn't what it was, and even then, they had a hard time projecting power. The Falkland's will probably drift to Argentina in the next decade or so, anyway.


4 posted on 01/20/2007 4:47:16 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: blam

Hate to say it, but that's what happens when you're a member of the losing army.


5 posted on 01/20/2007 5:10:29 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: neodad

Maybe so, maybe no. The RN is getting some real carriers soon, so they'll be better able to project force.

That said, the US Navy has really ruled the waves since before the HMS Hood sank.


6 posted on 01/20/2007 5:11:48 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
Maybe so, maybe no. The RN is getting some real carriers soon

Not if Labour has its way. The latest plan is to cancel the new ships and scrap half of the surface fleet, while terminating all paratroop training for the army.

7 posted on 01/20/2007 5:18:15 PM PST by PAR35
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To: neodad
"The Falkland's will probably drift to Argentina in the next decade or so, anyway."

I read a post on here a couple of weeks ago that Argentina, since their most recent election, is making noises about demanding the Brits return the Falkland's to them. With the Brits mothballing half their navy, it may be much sooner.

8 posted on 01/20/2007 5:31:40 PM PST by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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To: blam
That had to be the most painful war ever. I saw a news report that stated, and I quote, "to support the Falklands war, many Argentinians had to sell their family jewels." Ouch.
9 posted on 01/20/2007 5:35:10 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: blam

"Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap; "


10 posted on 01/20/2007 5:35:57 PM PST by LibKill (ENOUGH! Take the warning labels off everything and let Saint Darwin do his job.)
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To: blam

Well Pal, if you'd signed up for the navy and gotten a plum job on the Belgrano, this wouldn't be a problem.


11 posted on 01/20/2007 5:37:51 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: blam
I read recently that Britain will be halving her navy soon.
These vets down there will get the last laugh when Argentina decides (again) to claim the Malvina's as theirs.
12 posted on 01/20/2007 5:40:28 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"I read recently that Britain will be halving her navy soon."

"These vets down there will get the last laugh when Argentina decides (again) to claim the Malvina's as theirs."

I've read that the Brits have beefed-up the island defenses substancially.

13 posted on 01/20/2007 6:20:06 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
His ex-wife told the judge that he was a Falklands veteran and Santos was denied the right even to see his children.

I have a hard time believing this, that the judge simply hates veterans and so took the guys kids away.

14 posted on 01/20/2007 7:21:30 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: taxed2death

Argentina will never get the Falklands.....never.


15 posted on 01/20/2007 8:28:02 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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