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Universal health care gains support in many states
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/20/07 | Robert Tanner - ap

Posted on 01/20/2007 3:41:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 01/20/2007 3:41:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh no!

NOT this crap again.


2 posted on 01/20/2007 3:43:02 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: NormsRevenge

It worked out Great in Tennesse... :)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1769201/posts

/s


3 posted on 01/20/2007 3:45:20 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge

Electing Democrats in 2006 was such a great idea. /sarcasm


4 posted on 01/20/2007 3:46:56 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: traviskicks

Thanks for linking that in.


5 posted on 01/20/2007 3:47:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Government involvement in anything = lower prices!

LOL
6 posted on 01/20/2007 3:47:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: COEXERJ145

I told you staying home in November would teach them.


7 posted on 01/20/2007 3:48:11 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: NormsRevenge

If the gov.org signs your check you get free medical. Why should people who produce the money for those checks not have medical?


8 posted on 01/20/2007 3:48:48 PM PST by winodog
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To: COEXERJ145

Electing Democrats in 2006 was such a great idea. /sarcasm


I hear ya, aRnold (The Post-Partisanator) has sure turned out to be a real surprise to many. Rendell is hot to trot as well.


9 posted on 01/20/2007 3:50:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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There's a silver lining here.

It's far better for the states to offer universal health care than the Federal Government in Washington D.C.

Allow the states to compete with each other.

10 posted on 01/20/2007 3:52:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bill Clinton response - Who's going to pay for it?

Answer - us, and more ingrates will flood our borders just like in the Scandinavian countries.

It's gonna' get ugly.


11 posted on 01/20/2007 4:00:44 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I want trial lawyers to also pay their fair share...they are most responsible for the high price of healthcare...


12 posted on 01/20/2007 4:00:54 PM PST by TortReformer
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To: NormsRevenge
When a botched tonsillectomy comes along and the State is sued...
13 posted on 01/20/2007 4:01:12 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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"The plans also aim to cut costs by improving efficiency, and to improve the quality of care."

Somebody's never been in the private sector, to make such a statement. You can have it cheap, you can have it fast, or you can have quality. With some level of compromise, you might even get two of the three. But, you will never get all three. And, that's in the real world of market pressure. The real world of government intervention has always been slow, cumbersome, expensive and hidebound, and will continue to be so.


14 posted on 01/20/2007 4:02:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Any state that passes a law with the following clause:
"cap profits for insurers by requiring that 85 percent of revenue be devoted to treating patients"
will have every insurance company and reassurance company in the state immediately closing their books and leaving the state's insurance business. Insurance industry can NOT function on 15% of revenues. HIPAA compliance alone eats 5% of revenues as it is.
15 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:00 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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The problem is, as long as the uninsured must be treated at the emergency room, we're going to pay for universal healthcare one way or another. My niece, for example, has no insurance. She is in the emergency room for anything and everything. She once took her son to the emergency room for a minor and temporary rash around his mouth that ended up being caused by his binky. It's insane. On the other hand, my husband and I have good insurance -- and when my sons a similar rash, we kept the area dry, clean and protected with ointment and it cleared up on its own.

If these socialized medicine schemes don't build in an incentive for people to self-ration care via copayments or the like (i.e., encourage people to only use the system when they really need it), then we're going to be looking at Canada and UK style treatment shortages.


16 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:14 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: MinorityRepublican

OK,True. so what is the Silver Lining if Shrillary wins in '08?
;-)


17 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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This is horrible no matter how you slice it, but it's worse because we have to pay for the health care for every man, woman, and child in Central America too.


18 posted on 01/20/2007 4:08:59 PM PST by Fairview
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THE BIGGEST BARRIER: The biggest stumbling block is money. Who pays?

In California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Maine, state leaders said they were spreading the pain to every player, so every critic should stay on board.


Well, as is the norm in Massachusetts, the state leaders lied. Illegal aliens don't feel any pain in all of this, as they don't pay income taxes and their employers do not count them when it comes to contributions regarding health insurance. Therefore, they don't contribute to the disastrous program our loser legislature cobbled together overnight (they forgot to include children in the bill, an oversight discovered months later) for Mitt Romney's quick signature on his way out the door.

Our new governor, loony lib Deval Patrick, has made clear that illegal aliens have Preferred Citizen status in Massachusetts, so when they continue to flock here in droves for free health care, the pain will surely not be shared by all.

Moral of the story: Socialism Sucks. I personally hope the Massachusetts program, goes down like the Hindenburg to illustrate to the rest of the nation the folly of socialized medicine.
19 posted on 01/20/2007 4:16:42 PM PST by LostInBayport ("God save the Commonwealth of Massachusetts" -- spoken at Deval "Tax 'Em All" Patrick's inauguration)
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20 posted on 01/20/2007 4:26:20 PM PST by Gritty (Health care is coming back. It may be a bad dream for some. - Hillary Clinton)
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