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Universal health care gains support in many states
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/20/07 | Robert Tanner - ap

Posted on 01/20/2007 3:41:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Health care for all - an elusive goal that has tantalized presidents and governors for decades - is roaring back this year with ambitious proposals in a handful of prominent states.

The promise: Cover millions of uninsured adults and children. Improve the quality of care at hospitals and doctor's offices. Rein in rising costs that are eating up workers' wages, company profits and state budgets.

The problem: Someone's got to pay. And getting those with a stake in health care - doctors, insurers, hospitals, workers, employers, government - to agree on who and how much won't be easy.

The most influential effort is undoubtedly in California, the nation's most populous state, where GOP Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger this month introduced a bold plan that would provide health care coverage for 6.5 million residents without insurance.

With less fanfare, Pennsylvania has proposed a similar step and a half-dozen more states are actively debating the idea. All are building on a Massachusetts program that began this year - it likens health insurance to car insurance, making it a requirement for everyone.

If successful, the states could carve out a long-sought path for universal health care, a goal that's been politically dead since the Clinton administration. But that's a big "if" - passage won't be easy and the programs aren't cheap.

The Associated Press looked at proposals in front of state legislatures to break down the contentious issue.

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WHY HEALTH CARE IS HOT NOW: It's been talked about and debated for years, but wide agreement is emerging over the problem of health care's rising costs, which swallow wage increases and have threatened to overtake state spending on primary education. Businesses say they're at a disadvantage with global competitors.

The system can't survive another few years on the same track without collapsing, said Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat.

"If California, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts prove it's doable - and Maine has already to some extent - it will create an unstoppable momentum," he said.

Maine brought the issue back in 2003, with a law seeking to provide universal coverage.

Massachusetts' law last year - guaranteeing universal coverage - jump-started the action in state capitols.

In the last month, governors, legislative leaders and blue-ribbon commissions have declared universal coverage an attainable goal in Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, New Mexico, Oregon, Washington state and Wisconsin. Massachusetts and Vermont are to put their programs into effect this year, while Maine is tweaking its existing system. Many more are considering significant expansions.

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HOW UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE COVERAGE WOULD WORK: The overall goal is to get everyone, or nearly everyone, health insurance. The plans also aim to cut costs by improving efficiency, and to improve the quality of care. The plans being discussed would accomplish that in the following ways.

- All would build on the existing public and private insurance system to provide insurance and health care access to most or all the uninsured in their states - now some 46 million people nationwide.

- All aim to expand existing Medicaid programs to cover more of the poor and working poor who don't have insurance. They would require employers who don't provide insurance to do so. They seek some financial contributions or savings from doctors and insurers.

- They would establish a state mechanism that creates an insurance product, or sets up a marketplace, so that small businesses and individuals can get reasonably priced insurance.

- Some plans mandate that every individual must have insurance - not unlike mandatory auto insurance for every driver - with financial help for those too poor to buy it outright.

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THE BIGGEST BARRIER: The biggest stumbling block is money. Who pays?

In California, doctors and hospitals are already unhappy with Schwarzenegger's plan to levy a 2 percent fee on doctors and a 4 percent fee on hospitals. He would cap profits for insurers by requiring that 85 percent of revenue be devoted to treating patients: That idea alone sent the stock of health insurer Wellpoint Inc., with 34 million members, down 3.5 percent.

"He made enemies of every doctor and hospital in California when he did that," said Helen Darling, president of the National Business Group on Health, a consortium of companies trying to lower health costs.

In California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Maine, state leaders said they were spreading the pain to every player, so every critic should stay on board.

"That's always been the biggest challenge in health care reform. There is no pain-free solution," said Drew Altman, president of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, a Washington-based health group.

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CHANCE OF SUCCESS: The next few months will determine whether enthusiasts like Rendell or Schwarzenegger win the argument.

In Minnesota, GOP Gov. Tim Pawlenty warns that simply focusing on getting everyone insurance ignores deeper problems, even as some leaders of the Legislature's new Democratic majority say this is the year for universal health care.

"Many policymakers around the country are so fixated on more access, they're losing sight of the need to simultaneously focus on cost and quality," Pawlenty said. "Expanding access to a broken system is no solution. ... In the long run, that will be a failure."

He wants universal coverage, he insisted, but warns that government can't end up with the bill. His plan would broaden coverage to more uninsured children and have the state create a marketplace where insurers can provide a more affordable product. It wouldn't mandate that everyone get coverage.

There are even deeper philosophical differences in other parts of the country, particularly more conservative states which have emphasized cutting Medicaid costs rather than expanding coverage.

But the new ideas are even getting an airing there.

In Florida, where the biggest health care change under former Gov. Jeb Bush emphasized cutting costs of Medicaid, the new surgeon general talked enthusiastically of Massachusetts' universal health coverage law - and new GOP Gov. Charlie Crist said he wouldn't rule out considering something along those lines.

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FLASH IN THE PAN? How the Massachusetts program and high-profile proposals do also will decide the staying power of health care as a political issue. After President Clinton's health care reform attempt failed in the 1990s, the issue went dormant for years.

"Once you pass these programs and start the implementing, it only gets harder," said Maine Gov. John Baldacci, a Democrat. "Because then you're talking about real dollars and real decisions."

Maine hasn't met its ambitious goals, with fewer businesses signing on to the state program. But Baldacci and state leaders are trying to fix the flaws.

"Hopefully," he said, "the chambers of commerce, the unions, the businesses will recognize we need a solution."


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1 posted on 01/20/2007 3:41:29 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh no!

NOT this crap again.


2 posted on 01/20/2007 3:43:02 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: NormsRevenge

It worked out Great in Tennesse... :)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1769201/posts

/s


3 posted on 01/20/2007 3:45:20 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: NormsRevenge

Electing Democrats in 2006 was such a great idea. /sarcasm


4 posted on 01/20/2007 3:46:56 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: traviskicks

Thanks for linking that in.


5 posted on 01/20/2007 3:47:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: NormsRevenge
Government involvement in anything = lower prices!

LOL
6 posted on 01/20/2007 3:47:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: COEXERJ145

I told you staying home in November would teach them.


7 posted on 01/20/2007 3:48:11 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: NormsRevenge

If the gov.org signs your check you get free medical. Why should people who produce the money for those checks not have medical?


8 posted on 01/20/2007 3:48:48 PM PST by winodog
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To: COEXERJ145

Electing Democrats in 2006 was such a great idea. /sarcasm


I hear ya, aRnold (The Post-Partisanator) has sure turned out to be a real surprise to many. Rendell is hot to trot as well.


9 posted on 01/20/2007 3:50:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: NormsRevenge
There's a silver lining here.

It's far better for the states to offer universal health care than the Federal Government in Washington D.C.

Allow the states to compete with each other.

10 posted on 01/20/2007 3:52:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bill Clinton response - Who's going to pay for it?

Answer - us, and more ingrates will flood our borders just like in the Scandinavian countries.

It's gonna' get ugly.


11 posted on 01/20/2007 4:00:44 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I want trial lawyers to also pay their fair share...they are most responsible for the high price of healthcare...


12 posted on 01/20/2007 4:00:54 PM PST by TortReformer
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To: NormsRevenge
When a botched tonsillectomy comes along and the State is sued...
13 posted on 01/20/2007 4:01:12 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The plans also aim to cut costs by improving efficiency, and to improve the quality of care."

Somebody's never been in the private sector, to make such a statement. You can have it cheap, you can have it fast, or you can have quality. With some level of compromise, you might even get two of the three. But, you will never get all three. And, that's in the real world of market pressure. The real world of government intervention has always been slow, cumbersome, expensive and hidebound, and will continue to be so.


14 posted on 01/20/2007 4:02:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: NormsRevenge
Any state that passes a law with the following clause:
"cap profits for insurers by requiring that 85 percent of revenue be devoted to treating patients"
will have every insurance company and reassurance company in the state immediately closing their books and leaving the state's insurance business. Insurance industry can NOT function on 15% of revenues. HIPAA compliance alone eats 5% of revenues as it is.
15 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:00 PM PST by JerseyHighlander
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To: NormsRevenge

The problem is, as long as the uninsured must be treated at the emergency room, we're going to pay for universal healthcare one way or another. My niece, for example, has no insurance. She is in the emergency room for anything and everything. She once took her son to the emergency room for a minor and temporary rash around his mouth that ended up being caused by his binky. It's insane. On the other hand, my husband and I have good insurance -- and when my sons a similar rash, we kept the area dry, clean and protected with ointment and it cleared up on its own.

If these socialized medicine schemes don't build in an incentive for people to self-ration care via copayments or the like (i.e., encourage people to only use the system when they really need it), then we're going to be looking at Canada and UK style treatment shortages.


16 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:14 PM PST by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: MinorityRepublican

OK,True. so what is the Silver Lining if Shrillary wins in '08?
;-)


17 posted on 01/20/2007 4:06:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is horrible no matter how you slice it, but it's worse because we have to pay for the health care for every man, woman, and child in Central America too.


18 posted on 01/20/2007 4:08:59 PM PST by Fairview
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To: NormsRevenge
THE BIGGEST BARRIER: The biggest stumbling block is money. Who pays?

In California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Maine, state leaders said they were spreading the pain to every player, so every critic should stay on board.


Well, as is the norm in Massachusetts, the state leaders lied. Illegal aliens don't feel any pain in all of this, as they don't pay income taxes and their employers do not count them when it comes to contributions regarding health insurance. Therefore, they don't contribute to the disastrous program our loser legislature cobbled together overnight (they forgot to include children in the bill, an oversight discovered months later) for Mitt Romney's quick signature on his way out the door.

Our new governor, loony lib Deval Patrick, has made clear that illegal aliens have Preferred Citizen status in Massachusetts, so when they continue to flock here in droves for free health care, the pain will surely not be shared by all.

Moral of the story: Socialism Sucks. I personally hope the Massachusetts program, goes down like the Hindenburg to illustrate to the rest of the nation the folly of socialized medicine.
19 posted on 01/20/2007 4:16:42 PM PST by LostInBayport ("God save the Commonwealth of Massachusetts" -- spoken at Deval "Tax 'Em All" Patrick's inauguration)
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20 posted on 01/20/2007 4:26:20 PM PST by Gritty (Health care is coming back. It may be a bad dream for some. - Hillary Clinton)
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