[KantianBurke]

What ethical "questions" does this raise? It seems pretty obvious IMHO that this is child abuse.

[Jagman]

Just when you think the self-obsessed human race can't go any lower...

[muawiyah]

Dwarfism has numerous causes ~ hundreds in fact ~ but some causes are dealt with quite readily. Celiac Syndrome could lead to dwarfism. All you need to do is to exclude poisons wheat, barley and rye from your diet.

Hardly child abuse ~ concern about it is fundamentally RACISM people, RACISM!

Not all genetic differences are defects ~

[Bigh4u2]

I once saw a special, either on one of the alphabet networks, or PBS (same thing!?).
Anyway, the issue was a child (girl) who was deaf that had the chance to hear again by getting a Cochlear implant.

Her parents strenuously objected because they were afraid that the daughter would 'lose her heritage' by being able to hear.

Her mother at first went along, but in the end turned against her daughters wishes and convinced her not to have the surgery.

The mothers reason? She and her husband, along with all of their friends were deaf as well.

[originalbuckeye]

What was the line in 'Jurassic Park'? Something about wanting to do something so badly but never stopping to think about whether or not you ought to do it? Medical research should be used to move forward. Another example of the need to make people feel good about themselves. The 'feelings' crowd at it again.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Whether you're selecting for perfection or for imperfection, IVF in itself is "pretty obviously" wrong because you're treating babies like products, property, chattel.

The most obvious problem is that IVF "begets" or produces more offspring than will be implanted in your womb. That results in two really inhuman options: (1) killing your "surplus" offspring (or storing them in frozen form until they deteriorate and are ultimately dumped); or (2) using the embryo as a human experimental subject, without any of the safeguards essential to its moral status as a nascent human being.

The third problem is that the entire process of ovum extraction, sperm collection, in vitro fertilization, and so forth, has already reduced human procreation to an laboratory procedure resulting in a product who/which is a commodity in commercial transaction.

The entire distinction between a human being, a lab animal, and a bit of biological property is in smithereens.

So we (Americans) are right back where we were at the time of the Dred Scott decision of 1857, with the law unable to distinguish between a human being and a piece of property. Except at a potentially worse degree of complexity, since the human genome can now be altered through the introduction of heterologous genes, and the embryo manipulated into forms of abnormal development, so that distinguishing between "human" and "not-human" becomes almost impossible.

When Aldous Huxley wrote "Brave New World," he assumed --- didn't he? --- that people would want to prevent this from happening. There must be somebody out there who is thinking strategically about how to stop this whole race to total depersonalization.

Passing laws against IVF is the only practical way to stop this dehumanizing human children. I think it should be banned.

[originalbuckeye]

One more comment.....the people who claim to be 'for the children' are certainly not thinking about the children in this instance.

[vpintheak]

Child abuse, evil, the epitome of selfishness. Just sick.

[metmom]

Just when you think it can't get any worse.

If someone can rationalise this away, why not disfiguring the child after it's born? Why would that be a crime then?

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[FierceDraka]

Any "parents" who insist on INFLICTING disabilities on their children deserve nothing les than irreversable sterilization.

The idea of purposefully causing disabilities in children strikes me as absolutely monstrous!

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[jmcenanly]

It sounds like Huxley's Brave New World. In that novel, the elite classes, the Alphas and Betas,were screened for genetic perfection and enhanced intelligence.The mid-level Gammas were mass-produced, but average. The Deltas and Epsilons, who did the lowest work, were retarded, both in the sense of being mentally deficient, and were held back in development.

It would seem that we are going down that road, like it or not.

January 22, 143 AF