Posted on 01/19/2007 6:15:01 AM PST by kellynla
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Sure, getting it pass Jorge and a RAT congress will be a piece of cake.
Well since this seems to be a done deal...Amnesty by this summer, or sooner, will be a moot point I would suspect...
And I will not be surprised...
And any discussion after the fact will mean absolutely nothing...
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-this should be criminal to do this.
Integration with the US on Mexico's terms proceeds apace.
Another set, game and match by and for the enemies of our nation to deplete our treasury. Of course our politicians will go along with this scam to help our enemies bring the nation down another notch, thereby hastening the defeat of America and America's citizens. Get the money out of the US and the US will be easier to defeat. Our own elected helping the enemy while we citizens have to watch our nation destroyed before our eyes. I too didn't think it possible to destroy this nation. I was wrong, it is probably going to happen within my lifetime.
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
Gerardo Luviano is looking for somebody to rent his Social Security number. Mr. Luviano, 39, obtained legal residence in the United States almost 20 years ago. But these days, back in Mexico, teaching beekeeping at the local high school in this hot, dusty town in the southwestern part of the country, Mr. Luviano is not using his Social Security number. So he is looking for an illegal immigrant in the United States to use it for him - providing a little cash along the way. "I've almost managed to contact somebody to lend my number to," Mr. Luviano said. "My brother in California has a friend who has crops and has people that need one."
Mr. Luviano's pending transaction is merely a blip in a shadowy yet vibrant underground market. Virtually undetected by American authorities, operating below the radar in immigrant communities from coast to coast, a secondary trade in identities has emerged straddling both sides of the Mexico-United States border. The number of people participating in the illegal deals is impossible to determine accurately. But it is clearly significant, flourishing despite efforts to combat identity fraud.
"There are people who live in Mexico who take $4,000 or $5,000 in unemployment in the off season," said Jorge Eguiluz, a labor contractor working in the fields around Stockton, Calif. "They just lend the number during the season." The deals also generate cash in other ways.
Most identity lending happens within an extended family, or among immigrants from the same hometown. But it is still a hard-nosed transaction. Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund at the end of the year. The illegal immigrant "working the number" will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund.
Since legal American residents can lose their green cards if they stay outside the country too long, for those who have returned to Mexico it is useful to have somebody working under their identity north of the border. "There are people who live in Mexico who take $4,000 or $5,000 in unemployment in the off season," said Jorge Eguiluz, a labor contractor working in the fields around Stockton, Calif. "They just lend the number during the season."
The deals also generate cash in other ways. Most identity lending happens within an extended family, or among immigrants from the same hometown. But it is still a hard-nosed transaction. Illegal immigrant workers usually earn so little they are owed an income tax refund at the end of the year. The illegal immigrant "working the number" will usually pay the real owner by sharing the tax refund. "Sometimes the one who is working doesn't mind giving all the refund, he just wants to work," said Fernando Rosales, who runs a shop preparing income taxes in the immigrant-rich enclave of Huntington Park, Calif. "But others don't, and sometimes they fight over it. We see that all the time. It's the talk of the place during income tax time."
The income tax "refund" is almost certainly generated by Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) fraud, which as a "legal resident" the number renter would qualify to receive, especially if they have have or claim children. The EITC is a "refundable tax credit, which means the IRS will pay it out even if no taxes have been withheld or paid in. So the IRS gives filers who claim the EITC "refunds," even if they have had no taxes withheld. These number renters can claim up to $4,400 for the 2005 tax year in EITC "refunds," most of the number renters probably claim this maximum refund.
The Additional Child Tax Credit is another "refundable" credit which is no doubt routinely claimed by these renters.For 2005, if the number renter claimed $14,400 in wage income, and three children, between the EITC and the Additional Child Tax Credit the renter would, without having any taxes withheld from wages, receive a tax "refund" of $4,898, plus have $892 credited to Social Security; in addition to the potential of thousands of dollars in California unemployment compensation.
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Another widely-used SSN scheme: the illegals name their anchor baby the same name as the parent. They obtain a valid SSN for the anchor baby; the parent uses it, no one checks beyond name-matching, if that.
More---Lou Dobbs mentioned that the illegals are stealing small childrens' SSN because a child doesn't use a number very often so it is near impossible to detect a stolen number.
Dobbs also mentioned that business owners give illegals SSN of a previous employee (it is not a felony to give away SSNs but it is a felony to use them).
Another twist. Now they don't have to use rented or fake SS# because they've just been granted the right to collect SS if they have worked a short time (44 monthes I think), whereas we the American citizen has to work for far longer before collecting.
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I wonder if Feeney will be objecting to totalization with India, Poland, the Czech Republic, and Denmark.
Come On, Ben! Next you'll be telling us it's alright to steal and use someones identity. This is a bad deal for this country and bad for it's legal citizens.
We need to concentrate in the Senate because our chances are much better with the likes of Senators Coburn, Inhofe, Sessions, and others.
House is a simple majority -- time to hit the Senators on this one.
This is wrong -- illegals should be entitiled to zero, zip, nada and go home!
The world keeps getting smaller and smaller.
BTW, how many illegals do you know that kept their payroll check stubs?
"The world keeps getting smaller and smaller"
Is that the Globalist's wet dream?
"how many illegals do you know that kept their payroll check stubs?"
How many do you know?
Social Security billions could go to Mexicans
No wonder the public had to FOIA to get this, eh?
Instead, you will buy into the "it may-it could-it might" destroy SS. Thus, we call you a "maycouldamite".
How big of a problem was it when Canada and Mexico totalized?
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