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Sorry for the last posting. Torie, Vicomte13 has some meat in that plan he mentioned. I won't let him take credit for it, the theme has been kicked around. One is taking advantage of the sectarian violence. The Baker plan gave many concessions to the Iranians and Shia radicals. I thought for sure this going to swallowed hook, line and sinker. But a variation is still in play. Of course the Baathists and Sunni radicals and AQ are the ones, once eliminated will give a calm over the country. Two sides, the Kurds and the Shia moderates/nationalist are to be propped up to our cause. Why won't the Shia just be a proxy for Iran? Did you forgot that Shia fought Iran?

The plan may cause an uprising in SA? They are close now, same in many countries ie, Pakistan. We have an entrenched political and business elite in the US that has supported the Royal Family. Of course we will send troops in.
As for morality in war. Who ever came up with that, lost.

"I won't let him take credit for it, the theme has been kicked around. I won't let him take credit for it, the theme has been kicked around."

Quite a bit more than kicked around!
Bush has explicitly rejected variants of it thrice, publicly.
He hates it.
He'd rather lose.
So we will.
Pity.

The end game has to moral at least, even if some eggs are broken in the process. Liquidating the Sunnis in Iraq is not moral, and fraught with practical consequences, negative to US interests, of which I listed just a couple. I-N-S-A-N-E.