[batter]

I think jveritas is limiting his remarks to the folks who only complain and say we need to get out because all is lost. Their focal point is that everything sucks and we have lost so let's give up (they just offer negativity).

That is quite a bit different from: I see 'x' as a problem and believe that we need to do 'y' to overcome it. That is, constructive criticism.

That's my take. Hopefully jveritas will be able to answer your question on his/her own.

[joesbucks]

I think jveritas is limiting his remarks to the folks who only complain and say we need to get out because all is lost.

It's written that way, but it's meant for most any concern over the current fight on the WOT. I mean, how could anyone have any disenting ideas. It's all worked so beautifully.

[jude24]

That is quite a bit different from: I see 'x' as a problem and believe that we need to do 'y' to overcome it. That is, constructive criticism.

I think you are right.

[jveritas]

Soccrer:

You are exactly correct. Also we need to be careful that some defeatist hide their defeatism under the "Macho Talk" but at the end they say everything is lost, we cannot win, let us leave, etc....

[Mr. Mojo]

I think jveritas is limiting his remarks to the folks who only complain and say we need to get out because all is lost.

I hope that is indeed the case, but the folks you're referring to - the cut and runners - constitute a barely perceptible part of FR. ....hardly worth a mention. Most Freepers who've criticized the way things are going in Iraq (and the WOT in general) are doing so from the exact opposite position -- they've been advocating substantially increased aggressiveness, specifically directed at Sadr and his gang. ....and heartily support the President's "troop surge" and change in military leadership. In short, they want an increase in ass-kicking, not a military disengagement.