Defeatists On Free Republic Who Are Giving Aid and Comfort to the Enemy

January 18 2007 | jveritas

[jveritas]

The most lasting tragedy of the Vietnam War is that it has legitimized “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”. We are seeing the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy running wild in this war on terror and sadly not only among liberals and their media but also among some conservatives who some of them are right here on this great Free Republic.

When Al Qaeda terrorists, or the terrorist regimes in Iran and Syria, or the Iraqi insurgent terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia hear the speeches of defeatism coming from liberals and their media, or unfortunately coming from some conservatives who some of them are right here on Free Republic, will they feel comforted and aided by these speeches? Of course they will be comforted, and they will be embolden to fight more and more, kill more and more, destroy more and more, because they realize that many Americans do not have the will to fight a long and hard war.

Defeatism and providing aid and comfort to the enemy was something that we expected from liberals and their media because their hate to President Bush and the Republican Party is hundred of times more than their hate to the terrorists. However it is really sad that some conservatives and some members on this great forum are doing their share in providing aid and comfort to the enemy through their defeatist attitude.

Do the defeatists want to amend the Constitution so we will have the following? Stop the war and leave if we lose more than one thousand troops, or stop the war and leave if it lasts more than one year, or stop the war and leave if it costs more than 50 billions dollars, whichever comes first. Do they want to do this?

The defeatists who argue that Iraq is not part of the war on terror but rather it is just a civil war between Sunnis and Shia are wrong and naive beyond belief. Iraq is most definitely the central and most important front in the war on terror. It is in Iraq where Al Qaeda and their local Iraqi allies decided to fight the US. It is in Iraq where the islamic terrorists from all over the world are pouring in to fight the Americans. It is in Iraq where the terrorist regimes of Iran and Syria and their local Iraqi allies want to defeat the US so they can have total control of the Middle East. Since the terrorists are all over the world, then the best way to fight them is to attract them to one place to kill them. Whether it was planned or not, Iraq turned out to be the magnet that has been attracting the terrorists from all over the world, and that is the ultimate way to fight the war on terror and to kill as many terrorists as we can.

Every defeatist who is giving aid and comfort to the enemy should ask himself or herself this question: What will happen if we leave Iraq before we achieve complete victory? The First thing that will happen is that the enemy will be embolden beyond belief and the terrorists whether they are Sunnis or Shia, whether they are Al Qaeda, or Iran or Syria, will be given the ultimate victory that will embolden them thousands more time then when they were emboldened when the US left Beirut after the Marines barracks terrorist attack in 1983, or when the US left Somalia in 1993 after the terrorist killed 19 troops, or when no reprisal happened against the terrorists when they attacked many American targets through out the Clinton years. If our passiveness to the past terrorist attacks emboldened them in such a way to attack us on 9/11, think about what they can do to us if we give and leave Iraq and thus handle them the ultimate victory that they have been dreaming about for decades.

The defeatists must understand that if few terrorists sitting in a cave in Afghanistan with a small budget and few volunteers were able to do the 9/11 terrorist attacks, killed 3000 Americans, and caused over one trillion dollars in economic damages, then the terrorists control of Iraq and of the whole Middle East, and its vast oil resources will allow them to conduct terrorist attacks against us that we cannot imagine even in our worst nightmares. By controlling Iraq and the Middle East the terrorists will have hundreds of billions of dollars under their control that they will use it to attack us everywhere in the world and the US and cause unimaginable death, destruction and economic losses that will make 9/11 terrorist attacks look like a picnic in comparison. They will also use the oil weapon to bring the world economy to a disaster that will be many folds worse than that of the 1929 Depression.

Fellow Free Republic members, we are fighting the most important war since WW II. We are not fighting for the Iraqis in Iraq but we are fighting for ourselves, for our freedom and for our way of life. Let us all support our President and our brave troops because they need our support now more than ever.

[leadpenny]

Oh good! A witch hunt.

[kristinn]

This one?

At this time of our testing, the American people are starting to go wobbly. Sadly, many Freepers are too.

Folks need reminding every once in a while, it seems.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

You know what they say....

The Witch is always the last one to know.

[OESY]

General Patton's "Speech to the Third Army" on June 5th, 1944
The eve of the Allied invasion of France, code-named "Overlord"

"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American."

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[Txsleuth]

LOL..THAT ONE!!

I got into so many different "debates" on that thread...I would alternately get mad and leave....and then come back to help out other FRiends..

It was one of the best threads for getting the different POV out in the open.

I think this thread we are on...is just as necessary..but yours is a CLASSIC!

[kristinn]

The Kurds are getting ready to send 3,000 troops to help in Baghdad.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

AMEN Brother.....

The Generals General!

[Txsleuth]

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[AliVeritas]

Not just that.

France burns for a week, no news. Christian girls walking home from school, beheaded... nothing. Teachers beheaded in Indonesia, no news. Norway/Denmark record muslim rape of non-muslims, no news. India bombed, maybe two days. Philippines war against Islam raging, no news. The horn of Africa has been under attack and takeover for years (don't get me started on how many have been murdered), nada. Separate Islamic law courts being set up in countries, nothing. But feel free to show a video of the insurgents sniping at our troops.

There are a million examples of non-reporting. Not to mention the lies and treason printed in the rags and beamed into living rooms of folks who should know better.

Our congress wants a 'symbolic' vote that they don't support the troops... for the enemy... Who else could it be for... themselves. They're willing to get elected on cutting off funds and waiting for our troops to get cutdown. Disgusting.

This is global... and not just Iraq. The media tries it's best to isolate it and ignore what's going on around the world.

[Golden Eagle]

Defeatists? There's outright motormouth leftists on here, check my posting history.

[mewzilla]

WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEMIR: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't... no.
WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
BEDEMIR: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEMIR: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!
BEDEMIR: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
BEDEMIR: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEMIR: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!

[AliVeritas]

Hey you!

[jveritas]

We have to win this-not for just Iraq--for US!!

Amen.

[AliVeritas]

What part don't you agree with?

[colorado tanker]

for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American

If only that were still true for most Americans. Ike used to talk about the power and fury of "an aroused democracy." I don't think we're there yet. What I don't know is how many 9-11's it will take to get us there.

[Gator113]

Ditto's...................

[jveritas]

Their lack of patience and gullibility is appalling.

Yes and shocking!

[AliVeritas]

Bingo.

[sofaman]

disgruntlement (noun), a feeling of sulky discontent

(The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.)

Hope that cleared it up for you.

[jveritas]

Threads like this one are a good bait :)