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Bush Bashers Behaving Badly
CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 1/17/07 | J.F. Kelly, Jr.

Posted on 01/17/2007 7:00:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge

It would be helpful, I believe, if reflexive Bush bashers took a time out, caught their collective breath and considered the consequences of some of their actions and positions. Sure, I know that they are exercising their constitutional right as Americans to criticize their president and any other elected official with whom they disagree whether their criticism is based upon fact and logic, blind emotion or, as is commonly the case today, just visceral hatred of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and all who support them.

It’s time for us as a nation to decide whether or not we are really a nation at war or just a nation at war with itself. By war, I mean the real kind, fought by real soldiers who are dedicated to achieving a mission, not the make-believe, civilian kind such as the war on drugs or the war on poverty.

If we really are at war, then we should endeavor to rally behind the troops who are fighting it and the wartime president who is their commander-in-chief. That’s the American way, isn’t it? It doesn’t mean you have to agree with the war or love the president. Feel free to vote against his party whenever you get the chance but meanwhile, at the very least, refrain from saying or doing things that weaken the nation’s image, harm morale of the troops or provide comfort and encouragement to the enemy.

Egregious examples of the latter include demonstrations demanding return of the troops now and threats by Congressional Democrats to deny funding for military operations deemed necessary by the wartime commander-in-chief. Lesser examples include the unremitting condemnation of the president’s plan for a last ditch military effort to salvage something out of the Iraq fiasco without offering an alternative plan which the president has said time and again he would consider. By alternate plan, though, I mean something more substantive than recommending that we consult with our enemies in the region, Iran and Syria, both of whom are sponsors of terrorism which we are supposed to be at war against. Why on earth would we do that, knowing how they feel about us?

The anti-war protests are starting up again and nothing good for America will come from them. Protestors may truly feel that they are acting in America’s best interests but here’s a reality check. Ask any active duty soldier or marine who has seen combat in Iraq or Afghanistan how the anti-war demonstrations back home affect troops in combat. They are at best disturbing and unsettling to the troops and at worse, downright harmful to morale. The troops are, for the most part, too dedicated and disciplined to complain or to let it affect their performance but everyone I’ve asked has told me that it is important to know that the folks back home support them. Supporting them, however, entails more than just saying the words. It includes supporting the mission that they are putting their lives on the line for.

I’m certainly not going to bet the farm on the prospects for the president’s latest plan to succeed. Our troops will, of course, do everything in their power to achieve some manner of success in this so far mismanaged war. They deserve solid support from the home front and restraint from the Bush bashers while their lives are on the line. In the final analysis, though, success depends on the Iraqis themselves and their performance to date gives little cause for optimism. I personally have little confidence in their ability to put aside religious and tribal hatreds long enough to salvage their country.

Given the low regard that large numbers of Iraqis seem to have for Americans, it has become a matter some indifference to me and probably to most Americans whether Iraqis live happier ever after or whether they go on killing one another after we leave. I am far more concerned with the safety of our troops and with American interests in the area. A precipitous withdrawal, such as advocated by some, including Sen. John Edwards, Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. John Murtha, would be inimical to both concerns and any attempt to deny funding for wartime military operations would be an outrageous infringement of a wartime president’s authority.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badly; bashers; behaving; blubbering; blundering; bush; bushbotattack; bushfault; youknowwhoyouare
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To: streetpreacher

Self portrait. Thanks! I'd recognize you anywhere!!


181 posted on 01/18/2007 9:49:25 AM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: onyx

;-)


182 posted on 01/18/2007 9:50:10 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher

:0)


183 posted on 01/18/2007 9:51:52 AM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: ohioWfan
Forgive me for the throwing that last barb rather than addressing your grievances with me.

I am not going to relive that entire argument here. For one, I don't remember all of it and considering my posts were deleted, it's kind of hard to go back and verify.

I don't recall using the exact phrase "Baal worshiper". Not saying I didn't. But if I did, it was an unfortunate hyperbole on my part and I do apologize. You are right, that was an unwarranted and un-Christian attack.

I do remember tossing the term idolatry around and again I apologize. I have really had a hard time understanding those who don't seem to distinguish between nationalism and Christianity, equating support for the President or the war effort as a litmus test for how good a Christian one is. I just don't get that world view.

And yes, I felt that the prayer thread when I looked at it that day was more of a praise thread so I offered a controversial prayer using the words "deliver us from tyranny". That is, I recall, how this long standing feud started. BTW, I still pray that because I see too many politicians who are using terrorism threats as a pretext to expand the state, even if they are sincere in their beliefs.

I do apologize for questioning your sincerity as a believer. I obviously tilt to an extreme in defense of civil liberties and have at least been guilty of what I accused you of, not separating my politics from my Christianity.

And there's no doubt, I often post things just to stir the hornets nest so to speak, another shortcoming I suppose. But I am genuinely frustrated with this administration over the last several years. I don't see how a good "conservative" could not be but I apologize if I implied whether or not that makes one a "good Christian".

I do humbly ask your forgiveness if I implied you were somehow not genuine or not a true believer because of any political differences we share. IMO, it's not worth it. If you are a true sister in Christ, then it is stupid for me to divide with you over these things.

As Alan Keyes (one of your favorites) has said: "Let us agree to disagree... and disagree every chance we get!"
184 posted on 01/18/2007 10:20:04 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: streetpreacher
I have really had a hard time understanding those who don't seem to distinguish between nationalism and Christianity, equating support for the President or the war effort as a litmus test for how good a Christian one is. I just don't get that world view

I don't HAVE that world view. My politics are always, to the best of my ability, guided by my understanding of Scripture and prayer.

Thank you for your humble apology, sir. I accept it with all my heart and forgive you for any sins you have committed against me.

I also ask your forgiveness for sins I have committed against you, as my brother in Christ.

I hope we shall in the future be friendly opponents in the few areas in which we disagree.

185 posted on 01/18/2007 10:26:56 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: RebelBanker
I may not agree with everything the Boss has done, but he is our President and deserves our support.

Bush is a public servant. We're his boss.

186 posted on 01/18/2007 10:34:17 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: OldFriend
now you have the dems in charge and you feel vindicated?????????????????

Absolutly not.
187 posted on 01/18/2007 10:37:45 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: jmc813
President Bush is the elected leader of our country and deserves the respect due the office even if you do not like him personally. Referring to the President as simply "Bush" is a tactic employed by the liberal media and other enemies to show their contempt.
188 posted on 01/18/2007 10:46:05 AM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bumperoo!


189 posted on 01/18/2007 10:55:29 AM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: beyond the sea
He is by far the worst ........ and that nasally voice of his is just bad tasting icing on the cake.

Are you sure you're not mixing Hannity up with Mark Levin?

190 posted on 01/18/2007 11:00:14 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: raybbr
Do you ever get tired of being cynical and dishonest?

That is a serious question.

191 posted on 01/18/2007 11:00:53 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Miss Marple
Who can forget the odious snootiness of Laura Ingraham over Harriet Miers?

That's part of Laura's schtick is her cynicism and sarcasm. I love it.

192 posted on 01/18/2007 11:01:34 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: RebelBanker
President Bush is the elected leader of our country and deserves the respect due the office even if you do not like him personally.

My point still stands that he is sure as heck not my "Boss". You, I and all other Americans are HIS boss.

Referring to the President as simply "Bush" is a tactic employed by the liberal media and other enemies to show their contempt.

I'm reasonably confident that "Bush" does not read Free Republic. If I were to meet him in person, I'd refer to him as "President Bush". But here on FR, I'm not going to go out of my way to post his full title just so I don't offend some oversensitive freepers. Bush it is, though if you'd prefer, I'd be happy to cll him George instead. Your choice.

193 posted on 01/18/2007 11:11:45 AM PST by jmc813 (Please check out www.marrow.org and consider becoming a donor. You may save a life.)
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To: jmc813; Miss Marple
Who can forget the odious snootiness of Laura Ingraham over Harriet Miers? ------- That's part of Laura's schtick is her cynicism and sarcasm. I love it.

I'm still looking for a picture of Laura posing in a leopard print mini-skirt for a 1995 New York Times Magazine cover story.

I have periodically looked on the internet for this picture but have never found it.

People sometimes talk about the internet being scoured of things that are not complimentary to them. This seems like one of them. That picture is nowhere.

If this is true: "Laura Ingraham is nearly as well known for posing in a leopard print mini-skirt for a 1995 New York Times Magazine cover story on young right-wingers as she is for her seething hatred of “Elites” (aka liberals) and her grueling struggle against the oppressive liberal media. (http://www.campusprogress.org/tools/182/know-your-right-wing-speakers-laura-ingraham)................. then where is the picture??

194 posted on 01/18/2007 8:50:31 PM PST by beyond the sea ( World Ending - Children and The Poor Hit Hardest)
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To: beyond the sea

You can't find everything on the internet. Someone would have to have kept a copy of that issue and then scan it and post it online somewhere, and then it becomes problematic because they would be clearly violating copyright laws... this would be especially evident with "The New Yorker" banner plastered across the top of it. Still, it might appear out there somewhere, who knows. Maybe a freeper who has it will scan it.

I'm not familiar with the picture by the way, nor can I vouch for its existence.. ;)


195 posted on 01/19/2007 7:23:59 AM PST by buckleyfan (WFB, save us!)
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To: buckleyfan
For God's sake the picture exists........ it's just that it has gone away like all the lies of the Clintons.

;-)

196 posted on 01/19/2007 7:34:49 AM PST by beyond the sea ( World Ending - Children and The Poor Hit Hardest)
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