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Bush Bashers Behaving Badly
CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 1/17/07 | J.F. Kelly, Jr.

Posted on 01/17/2007 7:00:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge

It would be helpful, I believe, if reflexive Bush bashers took a time out, caught their collective breath and considered the consequences of some of their actions and positions. Sure, I know that they are exercising their constitutional right as Americans to criticize their president and any other elected official with whom they disagree whether their criticism is based upon fact and logic, blind emotion or, as is commonly the case today, just visceral hatred of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and all who support them.

It’s time for us as a nation to decide whether or not we are really a nation at war or just a nation at war with itself. By war, I mean the real kind, fought by real soldiers who are dedicated to achieving a mission, not the make-believe, civilian kind such as the war on drugs or the war on poverty.

If we really are at war, then we should endeavor to rally behind the troops who are fighting it and the wartime president who is their commander-in-chief. That’s the American way, isn’t it? It doesn’t mean you have to agree with the war or love the president. Feel free to vote against his party whenever you get the chance but meanwhile, at the very least, refrain from saying or doing things that weaken the nation’s image, harm morale of the troops or provide comfort and encouragement to the enemy.

Egregious examples of the latter include demonstrations demanding return of the troops now and threats by Congressional Democrats to deny funding for military operations deemed necessary by the wartime commander-in-chief. Lesser examples include the unremitting condemnation of the president’s plan for a last ditch military effort to salvage something out of the Iraq fiasco without offering an alternative plan which the president has said time and again he would consider. By alternate plan, though, I mean something more substantive than recommending that we consult with our enemies in the region, Iran and Syria, both of whom are sponsors of terrorism which we are supposed to be at war against. Why on earth would we do that, knowing how they feel about us?

The anti-war protests are starting up again and nothing good for America will come from them. Protestors may truly feel that they are acting in America’s best interests but here’s a reality check. Ask any active duty soldier or marine who has seen combat in Iraq or Afghanistan how the anti-war demonstrations back home affect troops in combat. They are at best disturbing and unsettling to the troops and at worse, downright harmful to morale. The troops are, for the most part, too dedicated and disciplined to complain or to let it affect their performance but everyone I’ve asked has told me that it is important to know that the folks back home support them. Supporting them, however, entails more than just saying the words. It includes supporting the mission that they are putting their lives on the line for.

I’m certainly not going to bet the farm on the prospects for the president’s latest plan to succeed. Our troops will, of course, do everything in their power to achieve some manner of success in this so far mismanaged war. They deserve solid support from the home front and restraint from the Bush bashers while their lives are on the line. In the final analysis, though, success depends on the Iraqis themselves and their performance to date gives little cause for optimism. I personally have little confidence in their ability to put aside religious and tribal hatreds long enough to salvage their country.

Given the low regard that large numbers of Iraqis seem to have for Americans, it has become a matter some indifference to me and probably to most Americans whether Iraqis live happier ever after or whether they go on killing one another after we leave. I am far more concerned with the safety of our troops and with American interests in the area. A precipitous withdrawal, such as advocated by some, including Sen. John Edwards, Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. John Murtha, would be inimical to both concerns and any attempt to deny funding for wartime military operations would be an outrageous infringement of a wartime president’s authority.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: badly; bashers; behaving; blubbering; blundering; bush; bushbotattack; bushfault; youknowwhoyouare
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To: streetpreacher
btw, don't count on the Dose disappearing in two years.

We've developed friendships due to our shared conservative values that aren't going to go away when this great President leaves office.

You're just going to have to learn to control your urges, street. It'll be hard, but you can do it. I know you can.....

121 posted on 01/17/2007 8:39:38 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan; streetpreacher
What an ugly, stupid post by streetpreacher. He writes, in part: "At the very least, it (the Dose) should be considered spam. But no, we have to suck it in on FR and pretend the emperor's wearing no clothes. Only two years left, thank goodness."

This from a poster who goes to other imitation forums to post about posters here.

I'll have streetpreacher know that the majority of the DOSERS support FR financially and we'll never cede this forum to the likes of a complainer like streetpreacher.

122 posted on 01/17/2007 8:44:22 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: onyx; streetpreacher
Why am I not surprised that street'preacher' is a cad who posts nasty things about FR on shadow forums?

He's clearly more 'street' than 'preacher.' As phony as the day is long......

(btw, he's called me a 'Baal worshipper'.......you know, the people who sacrificed their children to false idols? just because I pray for President Bush daily. THAT is the kind of person he is).

Isn't it interesting that he continues to read the Dose when he finds it so repulsive?

Issues, onyx. He has issues.

123 posted on 01/17/2007 8:49:19 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: streetpreacher
We also pray for him, too, Streetpreacher. Just call me, Cult Girl.
124 posted on 01/17/2007 8:51:47 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: ohioWfan; streetpreacher; sinkspur

Good grief, I had no idea he called you such evil names.

I can recall seeing his posting about sinkspur at another forum, but I do not check other forums. I am told way too often about them.



125 posted on 01/17/2007 8:52:12 PM PST by onyx (DONATE NOW! -- It takes DONATIONS to keep FR running!!)
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To: Miss Didi; streetpreacher
streetpreacher is also repulsed by people who pray for the President.

That says all you need to know about him, IMO....

126 posted on 01/17/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: onyx; streetpreacher
As a Christian, I understand where those kinds of insults are coming from............and it's not from the Lord, that's for sure.

Gotta go now, but I think we've both found out some important information about this pseudo, and can understand where his hatred for our brother in Christ, President Bush is coming from.

By their fruits ye shall know them, onyx.....

127 posted on 01/17/2007 8:56:01 PM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: Carolinamom

I hear the loony and not so loony left on the radio & TV everyday. They will NEVER change their minds. Never. They think the US/Bush is a force of evil. That all this is a big neo con conspiracy and they truly believe it. There will be no unity only more disorder and bashing. They are truly the enemy within and us "good guys" has better figure out a way to defeat this enemy.


128 posted on 01/17/2007 8:57:57 PM PST by RacerX1128
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To: Miss Didi
Just call me, Cult Girl

Add me to that list :0)

129 posted on 01/17/2007 9:05:16 PM PST by Mo1 (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC AND DONATE)
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To: NormsRevenge

The war has not entirely been mismanaged. The aim has been to keep the country from breaking up, which is the very opposite of that which some people would like to happen. We can't forget what happened in Yugoslavia after the Germans encouraged its breakup. Too many actors seem not to want that result and we seem to have reluctant to kill them. Shinseki proposed numbers for success at a level that would recluded an invasion. I still do not see that an invasion was a bade idea, since we can reasonably guess what the situation would have been with two bad actors, Iraq and Iran, each contending for control in the region.


130 posted on 01/17/2007 9:06:28 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: OldFriend
Please get your head out of your butt and go bash the President on DU where you'll be welcome.

Actually I would not be welcome on DU. I am a true conservative. The difference between me and you is that I realize that Bush is not a conservative. Aside for 2 or 3 things, George Bush has been a big government/big spending liberal.
131 posted on 01/17/2007 9:24:01 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Miss Marple
including prominent radio talk show hosts

Rush and Sean have been cheerleading for Bush since day one. A few months back Rush claimed that he felt 'liberated' when the Republicans lost. He realizes that the Republicans have lost touch with the conservative base. Ever since the elections, I can sense the difference in Rushes program almost daily... In a way, he has distanced himself from the Republican party.
132 posted on 01/17/2007 9:27:30 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: ImpBill

"I for one don't appreciate the label of Bush Basher, just because I don't drink the cool aide of those who label us."

Well stated, sir, and I am in full agreement with everything you said. I sure hope we can elect a REAL CONSERVATIVE in '08.


133 posted on 01/17/2007 9:29:18 PM PST by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax
I suspect that a great number of "Bush Bashers" actually voted for him twice, as I did. I support our troops 110% and support the President on most issues. That dang border thing just won't go away.

I proudly voted for him twice also. However, I am agrivated with him because I feel that the conservatives are not getting their monies worth out of him (so to speak).
134 posted on 01/17/2007 9:30:07 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: NormsRevenge

Tautological Title?


135 posted on 01/17/2007 9:31:13 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: You Dirty Rats
The only people with brown thumbs in Washington are Senators who are too cowardly to either support the war or cut off funds and instead want to pass a nonbinding pouty lip resolution

No funds will be cut from the war effort. Some politicians are just threatening it so that in 2 years from now they can say that they went on record in support of defunding the war.

Fear not, Iraq is just one of many toilet bowls in the mideast that we are going to dump billions on to 'rebuild' or 'democratize'. I am with Ron Paul on this- tell the Iraqis to sh*t or get off the pot- they need to take control of their own country. Enough is enough already.
136 posted on 01/17/2007 9:36:40 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: streetpreacher

"Extremism is so easy. You’ve got your position, and that’s it. It doesn’t take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left."


137 posted on 01/17/2007 9:39:30 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: KevinDavis

"The border problem was there before Bush and it is going to [be] there after Bush...."

There won't be a 'border problem' if we can elect a President that will stand by his oath of office to defend America on ALL fronts, and that includes both our northern and southern borders.

Say NO to the borderless NAU or we will perish as a free nation.


138 posted on 01/17/2007 9:41:01 PM PST by panaxanax
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To: dmw
Maybe this will help.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BUMP


139 posted on 01/17/2007 9:51:11 PM PST by Enduring Freedom (President Bush - Your Public Relations Team Sucks!)
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To: panaxanax
I hope you are right, but to be honest I am not holding my breath. The GOP really believes they don't need us any longer. All sides playing to the wishy/washy middle of the road, no principled folks. Unfortunately it is going to take a huge hit from the Islamovermin to get the "sheeples" heads where they need to be. I don't want to see any Americans killed here, but the only upside of the big hit that is coming is that it will more than likely be one of the big metro-plexes on the "left" or "further left" coasts. And that isn't much of an upside, I must admit.

Brain is fried trying to figure out my "fellow Americans" these days.

God Bless

140 posted on 01/17/2007 11:33:34 PM PST by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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