Posted on 01/17/2007 7:00:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge
It would be helpful, I believe, if reflexive Bush bashers took a time out, caught their collective breath and considered the consequences of some of their actions and positions. Sure, I know that they are exercising their constitutional right as Americans to criticize their president and any other elected official with whom they disagree whether their criticism is based upon fact and logic, blind emotion or, as is commonly the case today, just visceral hatred of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and all who support them.
Its time for us as a nation to decide whether or not we are really a nation at war or just a nation at war with itself. By war, I mean the real kind, fought by real soldiers who are dedicated to achieving a mission, not the make-believe, civilian kind such as the war on drugs or the war on poverty.
If we really are at war, then we should endeavor to rally behind the troops who are fighting it and the wartime president who is their commander-in-chief. Thats the American way, isnt it? It doesnt mean you have to agree with the war or love the president. Feel free to vote against his party whenever you get the chance but meanwhile, at the very least, refrain from saying or doing things that weaken the nations image, harm morale of the troops or provide comfort and encouragement to the enemy.
Egregious examples of the latter include demonstrations demanding return of the troops now and threats by Congressional Democrats to deny funding for military operations deemed necessary by the wartime commander-in-chief. Lesser examples include the unremitting condemnation of the presidents plan for a last ditch military effort to salvage something out of the Iraq fiasco without offering an alternative plan which the president has said time and again he would consider. By alternate plan, though, I mean something more substantive than recommending that we consult with our enemies in the region, Iran and Syria, both of whom are sponsors of terrorism which we are supposed to be at war against. Why on earth would we do that, knowing how they feel about us?
The anti-war protests are starting up again and nothing good for America will come from them. Protestors may truly feel that they are acting in Americas best interests but heres a reality check. Ask any active duty soldier or marine who has seen combat in Iraq or Afghanistan how the anti-war demonstrations back home affect troops in combat. They are at best disturbing and unsettling to the troops and at worse, downright harmful to morale. The troops are, for the most part, too dedicated and disciplined to complain or to let it affect their performance but everyone Ive asked has told me that it is important to know that the folks back home support them. Supporting them, however, entails more than just saying the words. It includes supporting the mission that they are putting their lives on the line for.
Im certainly not going to bet the farm on the prospects for the presidents latest plan to succeed. Our troops will, of course, do everything in their power to achieve some manner of success in this so far mismanaged war. They deserve solid support from the home front and restraint from the Bush bashers while their lives are on the line. In the final analysis, though, success depends on the Iraqis themselves and their performance to date gives little cause for optimism. I personally have little confidence in their ability to put aside religious and tribal hatreds long enough to salvage their country.
Given the low regard that large numbers of Iraqis seem to have for Americans, it has become a matter some indifference to me and probably to most Americans whether Iraqis live happier ever after or whether they go on killing one another after we leave. I am far more concerned with the safety of our troops and with American interests in the area. A precipitous withdrawal, such as advocated by some, including Sen. John Edwards, Sen. Edward Kennedy and Rep. John Murtha, would be inimical to both concerns and any attempt to deny funding for wartime military operations would be an outrageous infringement of a wartime presidents authority.
We've developed friendships due to our shared conservative values that aren't going to go away when this great President leaves office.
You're just going to have to learn to control your urges, street. It'll be hard, but you can do it. I know you can.....
This from a poster who goes to other imitation forums to post about posters here.
I'll have streetpreacher know that the majority of the DOSERS support FR financially and we'll never cede this forum to the likes of a complainer like streetpreacher.
He's clearly more 'street' than 'preacher.' As phony as the day is long......
(btw, he's called me a 'Baal worshipper'.......you know, the people who sacrificed their children to false idols? just because I pray for President Bush daily. THAT is the kind of person he is).
Isn't it interesting that he continues to read the Dose when he finds it so repulsive?
Issues, onyx. He has issues.
Good grief, I had no idea he called you such evil names.
I can recall seeing his posting about sinkspur at another forum, but I do not check other forums. I am told way too often about them.
That says all you need to know about him, IMO....
Gotta go now, but I think we've both found out some important information about this pseudo, and can understand where his hatred for our brother in Christ, President Bush is coming from.
By their fruits ye shall know them, onyx.....
I hear the loony and not so loony left on the radio & TV everyday. They will NEVER change their minds. Never. They think the US/Bush is a force of evil. That all this is a big neo con conspiracy and they truly believe it. There will be no unity only more disorder and bashing. They are truly the enemy within and us "good guys" has better figure out a way to defeat this enemy.
Add me to that list :0)
The war has not entirely been mismanaged. The aim has been to keep the country from breaking up, which is the very opposite of that which some people would like to happen. We can't forget what happened in Yugoslavia after the Germans encouraged its breakup. Too many actors seem not to want that result and we seem to have reluctant to kill them. Shinseki proposed numbers for success at a level that would recluded an invasion. I still do not see that an invasion was a bade idea, since we can reasonably guess what the situation would have been with two bad actors, Iraq and Iran, each contending for control in the region.
"I for one don't appreciate the label of Bush Basher, just because I don't drink the cool aide of those who label us."
Well stated, sir, and I am in full agreement with everything you said. I sure hope we can elect a REAL CONSERVATIVE in '08.
Tautological Title?
"Extremism is so easy. Youve got your position, and thats it. It doesnt take much thought. And when you go far enough to the right you meet the same idiots coming around from the left."
"The border problem was there before Bush and it is going to [be] there after Bush...."
There won't be a 'border problem' if we can elect a President that will stand by his oath of office to defend America on ALL fronts, and that includes both our northern and southern borders.
Say NO to the borderless NAU or we will perish as a free nation.
Brain is fried trying to figure out my "fellow Americans" these days.
God Bless
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