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Bush Slammed as Border Patrol Agents Begin Prison Terms
CNSNews ^ | January 17, 2007 | Randy Hall

Posted on 01/17/2007 4:24:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

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To: Howlin
That's what people do on FR now

Actually, it's more like a circle jerk : )

I still like FR, but between the conspiracy nuts, creationist nuts, and loser-candidate nuts FR is changing, and not for the better. But I'll stick around-this is still the premier conservative forum, even if the nuts seem to have taken overe parts of the asylum!

241 posted on 01/18/2007 10:13:14 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: Howlin

P.S. I've badmouthed Bush and the GOP myself plenty of times-but only when they actually deserved it : )


242 posted on 01/18/2007 10:14:42 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (I'm pretty sure the phrase life is too short doesn't exist in Islam-Dennis Miller)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

"Three of whom have now come forward to say they were coerced by the prosecutors to find the agents guilty"

Then the jurors failed in their duty. I seem to recall
that they take an oath to do true justice in the appraisal
of the evidence.


243 posted on 01/18/2007 10:20:22 PM PST by rahbert
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To: Howlin
I don't think it's foolish to believe that people who knowingly hire illegal immigrants should be in prison and I believe many people agree with that. I think it's wrong and selfish to sell out your own nation for personal gain which is what many of the open border Republicans are doing. Illegal immigration is destroying the nation and people who actively support it by hiring illegals should be punished.
244 posted on 01/18/2007 10:22:51 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: rahbert

"And you think this is acceptable?"

actually, no. I was only responding to another poster who stated that police do not shoot people in the back...


245 posted on 01/18/2007 10:38:32 PM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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To: new cruelty

I fear our justice system if jurors are this stupid.


246 posted on 01/18/2007 10:39:30 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: DCPatriot

get lost


247 posted on 01/18/2007 10:56:22 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

dittos!


248 posted on 01/18/2007 11:03:06 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: Mr. Mojo
As two U.S. Border Patrol agents surrendered to federal marshals Wednesday afternoon to begin serving more than a decade in jail for shooting an illegal drug smuggler, a federal lawmaker and conservative advocacy group expressed outrage at President Bush for not pardoning the men.

They shot a fleeing suspect after a long chase and many, many bullets fired. Then they covered up what they did by destroying evidence and filing false reports. This is what they went to jail for.
249 posted on 01/18/2007 11:18:12 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Mr. Mojo

Crikey -- tough call. Seems the "Rule of Law" was broken by both the agents and the drug-smuggling scroat. Me, I'd prefer to see the scroat imprisoned rather than the border guards: the latter serve a useful purpose to Society: the former do not, by any stretch of the imagination.

That said, the law was broken by all...

Eeeny-meeny-miney-moe:
Who to Convict?
I don't know.
They'll both holler:
Let 'em Go.
Eeny-meeny-miney-moe.

Seems to me a good solution moving forward would be to invent and make available a series of good, fool-proof, long-range, non-lethal weapons: particularly to Law Enforcement. Weapons that cause no lasting damage, but at the same time certainly aren't gentle.

Issue them to cops and border guards, take away their service revolvers, and say "go to it, guys! Blaze away! We want to take the Bad Guys ALIVE."

Within this proposed solution is scope for all kinds of creativity and innovation: of the sort that would make Tasers look clumsy and tame.

Such weapons would need to be small, good range of say 100 yards accuracy, and be able to render a fleeing scroat "hors de combat" with one shot.

Ideas?


250 posted on 01/18/2007 11:43:25 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

251 posted on 01/19/2007 3:45:40 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

We have a bigger problem.

My wife - my wife who volunteered at phone banks for El Presidente Bush. My wife - who stood in line at his rallies. My wife - who is as loyal a person as I have ever met . . . a home-schooling, Christian, conservative . . .

. . . has just told me that she is done voting for Republicans.

She just told off the Right to Life phone solicitor that wanted a donation, pointing out that nothing happens when Republicans are in power so why help or work or pay to keep Democrats out.

She is not voting for Republicans anymore.

That ought to scare the Republicans. When they have lost her, they are done. They ain't gonna win any more elections. Not here in Ohio.

This coddling of drug dealing illegal immigrants is simply a symptom of how far from their base and their former principles they have drifted.

They love power and do not love America anymore.


252 posted on 01/19/2007 3:59:39 AM PST by Jonathan
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To: Jonathan

Did Brian Kilmeade on Fox & Friends just say that the President may pardon these guys???


253 posted on 01/19/2007 4:02:06 AM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: GOPyouth

yes


254 posted on 01/19/2007 4:14:01 AM PST by firewalk
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255 posted on 01/19/2007 4:18:54 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Mr. Mojo
Ramos and Compean were charged with assault with a dangerous weapon, assault with serious bodily injury, discharge of a firearm during the commission of a crime of violence, willfully violating Aldrete-Davila's Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable seizure and obstruction of justice for intentionally defacing the crime scene, lying about the incident, and failing to report the truth.

Have any other LEOs been criminally charged with violating 4th Amendment rights? Ever? In history?

256 posted on 01/19/2007 4:26:58 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: GOPyouth

I hope that he does.

He ought to.

But the "base" is moving on. My dear wife says it's not worth voting anymore.

Compare the way things have gone under Bush vs. under Clinton and she's got a point.

Gay marriage. Universial healh care coming. Television is a cesspool. Made in China junk everywhere. Factory closings everywhere.

What did Bush do for us anyway? (I know the "judge argument" but the Supremes will never rule on firearms or abortion or anything else "reactionary" - they are too jealous of their power and prerogatives).


257 posted on 01/19/2007 4:29:03 AM PST by Jonathan
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To: Jonathan
To show your unhappiness by not voting is only going to make things worse.

Montgomery County Maryland...it was reported on the news yesterday that the county council is mulling giving day laborers business loans.

I suppose the idea is to get them into the system and turn them into bonafide taxpayers.

Now an illegal can obtain a loan from the local government to say...buy a van...and become his own general painting contractor..."hire" his buddies and BAM...a competitor is born.

Ain't America great?

258 posted on 01/19/2007 4:41:49 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
Now an illegal can obtain a loan from the local government to say...buy a van...and become his own general painting contractor..."hire" his buddies and BAM...a competitor is born.

We have large pockets of insurgency in Maryland, Monty County being just one of them.

If you have a link to that story I'd appreciate it.

259 posted on 01/19/2007 6:04:18 AM PST by evad
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To: evad

I heard it on the radio yesterday. I will search for a link.


260 posted on 01/19/2007 6:16:18 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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