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Bush won't reauthorize eavesdropping program
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Posted on 01/17/2007 11:21:09 AM PST by Sub-Driver

Bush won't reauthorize eavesdropping program Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:10 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush has decided not to reauthorize the controversial domestic warrantless surveillance program for terrorism suspects and to put it under the authority of a secret special court, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on Wednesday.

"The president has determined not to reauthorize the Terrorist Surveillance Program

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bushcaves; govwatch; privacy; wot
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To: oceanview
Are you that naive? The DEMS don't care about FISA, they wanted their own oversight, and used FISA as pure rhetoric. Dems wanted to hold hearings on this for the next two years, and now they have nothing to say about it.

Don't forget, this does NOTHING to preclude Bush from starting ANOTHER secret program that the Dems don't know about either, with safeguards in place to identify and punish leakers.

61 posted on 01/17/2007 12:08:47 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: roses of sharon

Actually, the nation is pretty evenly split. A preponderance of air headed mindless women fear war and believe the media. They made the difference.


62 posted on 01/17/2007 12:08:55 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. .... It's spit on a lefty day.)
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To: mnehrling
and by replacing the members of the FISA court (which isn't reported on..)

Link?

63 posted on 01/17/2007 12:09:14 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: tobyhill

how do you figure that? how is it "on congress" now? I would agree with you, had CONGRESS challenged the constitutional authority of the President to bypass FISA, and won that case, then it would have been "on congress". But how is it "on congress" now, when the administration voluntarily agreed to restore FISA jurisdiction?


64 posted on 01/17/2007 12:09:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Sub-Driver

I pose the idea that this actually came from the Office of Disinformation (who's first memo was that the Office would not be created). ;)


65 posted on 01/17/2007 12:11:22 PM PST by Just sayin (Is is what it is, for if it was anything else, it would be isn't.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Hey due...it's all just opinion and conjecture...yours and his...unless you have actual stated facts on your assertions......don't get your panties in a wad...sheesh...


66 posted on 01/17/2007 12:11:30 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Pukin Dog

the Dems could step up today, and de-authorize the FISA court. will they?

the Dems simply do not want use of executive power in this area, and that's been done away with now.

They can still hold hearings about the conduct of the program since 9-11 - and now they will be able to say "note that Bush himself decided to stop this illegal program". and what do republicans say in response to that? they've got nothing to say in retort now.


67 posted on 01/17/2007 12:13:22 PM PST by oceanview
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To: mnehrling

Not to be an ass...but you reference your post as an agreement to your argument?????...WTF??


68 posted on 01/17/2007 12:14:02 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Pukin Dog
Don't forget, this does NOTHING to preclude Bush from starting ANOTHER secret program that the Dems don't know about either, with safeguards in place to identify and punish leakers.

Move the equipment to another building and give the program a new name. Presto changeo.

69 posted on 01/17/2007 12:14:11 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: bert
A supposed evenly split public matters not.

Only press and PR matters, that is the only reality, regardless of the subject, regardless of the truth on the ground, regardless of facts.

We are underground and treading water, and have been for 40 years. Even when Gringrich was in charge, conservatives could pass no legislation because of bad press.

Until we face our real enemy and destroy them, ie, the press/Hollywood/Academia, we are every man for himself.
70 posted on 01/17/2007 12:15:26 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Getsmart64

No, I was attempting to keep from typing the same thing again.. ie, read XX, that is my response..


71 posted on 01/17/2007 12:16:05 PM PST by mnehring (Virtus Junxit mors non Separabit)
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To: oceanview

Sigh.


72 posted on 01/17/2007 12:16:14 PM PST by Dog
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To: MaestroLC

Levin knows the score.

everyone on this thread who thinks this is a good idea, should read Levin.


73 posted on 01/17/2007 12:16:25 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Pukin Dog
Ok...have had a couple glasses of vino but...how can putting this BACK into the hands of the FISA when he took it OUT of the hands of the FISA keep Congress out of it....unless you have supporting documentation that Bush has the FISA court stacked with minions that will do his bidding...I think that is what your saying...
74 posted on 01/17/2007 12:17:56 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Sub-Driver

Excellent. Warrantless wiretaps are something that I don't like because they eliminate oversight and accountablity. Even having a rubber-stamp special court forces someone somewhere to sign a paper saying who they are, what they're doing, and why. That way if the system is abused, we can go back to find out who asked for what.


75 posted on 01/17/2007 12:18:11 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: roses of sharon

look, we know this adminisrtation is politically inept. but here was an issue that we were doing pretty well with politically (compared to iraq for example) - and we just gave it away.


76 posted on 01/17/2007 12:18:18 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Zeko
Yes, the enemy moles in bureaucracy and their compatriots in the anti-American media have won another battle.
77 posted on 01/17/2007 12:19:21 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: oceanview

I just read the AG letter, and it sure reads like capitulation to me. Mark Levin will explain it all later, but this sure looks like a white flag to me.


78 posted on 01/17/2007 12:20:19 PM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Kerretarded

Bush ceded his right to executive power here. the FISA court, can be desconstructed or changed by congress tomorrow.


79 posted on 01/17/2007 12:21:06 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
To quote Sam Gamgee when he spoke to Gollum;

YER OPLESS!
80 posted on 01/17/2007 12:21:48 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show someone with bad knees)
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