Posted on 01/17/2007 10:37:25 AM PST by meg88
Poker is a game of luck and not skill, court rules Lucy Bannerman
In the end, good fortune had the stronger hand.
A jury decided yesterday that luck, not skill, played the greater part in poker in a landmark ruling on the status of gambling in Britain.
Derek Kelly, the chairman of a private members club in London, lost his fight to make poker exempt from gambling legislation on the grounds that it was a game of skill.
He was found guilty of breaking the 1968 Gaming Act, after hosting two poker games at the Gutshot club, bar and restaurant in Clerkenwell, Central London.
The jury at Snaresbrook Crown Court found him guilty of breaching the Act on December 7, 2004, when a levy was charged on the winnings, and on January 27, 2005, when a fee was charged to take part.
The Act states that a licence is needed to host games of chance such as blackjack and roulette, but not games of skill, such as chess and quiz machines.
The trial was seen as a test of whether poker should fall under the remit.
Kelly, 46, from Greystones, County Wicklow, said that he was very disappointed.
We still will be playing at the Gutshot tonight. We may have to change the way we do it.
A date for sentencing has been set for February 16.
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That must be why I always lose at poker. Either that or I try to win every time with a pair of twos.
Jailed for Poker...unbelievable.
I know a judge I'd like to play poker with......
Sure... that's why you can recognize at least half the final table at any WSOP event. It's mostly skill in that it's a manipulation of risk & percentages. It's hard to sustain luck.
clearly this judge has never seen me play...
Pair of jacks to open, but don't raise.
You got to know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away,
& know when to run!
You got to know when to hold 'em,
Know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away,
& know when to run!
The Act states that a licence is needed to host games of chance such as blackjack and roulette, but not games of skill, such as chess and quiz machines.
I think I've found the answer. You can't host a poker game without giving the State a cut, no matter how much luck or skill is needed to win.
grrrr, lousy rotten double posts!
A HAND of poker? More luck than skill.
HOURS of hands of poker? More skill than luck.
Which is why I don't play poker anymore: Everyone can tell when I get a good hand.
I would like to see this judge sit down with 100k of her own money vs. Johnny Chan, Daniel Negreanu, Doyle Brunson and Phil Ivey. Give her twice as many chips to start with. If it's just luck she should have the best chance of winning, right?
. . . they will clean you out.
My father paid his way through school playing poker (and contract bridge) for money.
I entered a WSOP satellite event a couple months ago. $200 buy in. 105 players. Grand prize was a seat and $10K in chips at the 2007 WSOP in Vegas. I made it to the final two tables before I was OUTPLAYED. With luck, you can win a hand. With skill, you can win a tournament.
They obviously don't play with the sharks I play with!
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