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Is Rudy Likely to Be a Favorite or a Flop?
Real Clear Politics ^ | January 16 2007 | Stuart Rothenberg

Posted on 01/16/2007 8:21:49 AM PST by Reagan Man

Today's deepest division is between those political observers who believe that Rudy Giuliani is a credible contender for the Republican presidential nomination and those who think that his chances are no better than those of California Rep. Duncan Hunter.

~snip~

Giuliani's strong showing in GOP polling reflects his celebrity status and the reputation he earned after the terrorist attacks. But if and when he becomes a candidate, that will change. He will be evaluated on the basis of different things, including his past and current positions and behavior, and he'll be attacked by critics and opponents. A Giuliani nomination would also generate a conservative third-party candidate in the general election and tear the GOP apart, thereby undercutting Giuliani's electability argument.

So, the former mayor might make a terrific general election candidate, but I don't see how he can get there as a Republican.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rmthread
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Rudy`s no conservative. I choose flop!
1 posted on 01/16/2007 8:21:50 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

I agree. His abortion positions alone do it for me. I will write in myself before I cast a vote for him.


2 posted on 01/16/2007 8:25:42 AM PST by admiralsn («º¿º»)
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To: admiralsn

I hope you are talking about the primaries.


3 posted on 01/16/2007 8:26:32 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Reagan Man

Why would any social conservative vote for Giuliani? They could sit at home and get the same thing with a democrat winning.


4 posted on 01/16/2007 8:27:00 AM PST by Dreagon
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To: Reagan Man
In three words....
Two Thumbs Down!
5 posted on 01/16/2007 8:28:07 AM PST by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: Reagan Man
I'm voting for Rudy..and this is the reason...I am sick and tired of halfassed Conservatives ( Liberals like McCain the waver between I'm a conservative on some issues)...So I will vote for the most liberal Republican I can...It's McCain or Rudy ...Goooooooooo Rudy
6 posted on 01/16/2007 8:29:12 AM PST by Defendingliberty (www.gulagthebear.com)
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To: Reagan Man

I suggest he keep his day job for now.


7 posted on 01/16/2007 8:30:07 AM PST by tioga
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To: Reagan Man

{A Giuliani nomination would also generate a conservative third-party candidate in the general election and tear the GOP apart}

I doubt if a 3rd party would hand Obama the keys to the White House. If Giuliani is the GOP nominee, conservatvies must setup a conservative 3rd party to aid GOP Congressional candidates. The type of voters that Giuliani attracts are left-leaning independents who will vote for Rudy and turn around and vote RAT for Congressional races. We need a conservative 3rd party candidate to inspire disgruntled conservatives to vote for good Congressional candidates.


8 posted on 01/16/2007 8:31:17 AM PST by Kuksool (I learned more about political science on FR than in college)
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To: tioga

I say vote for whomever you want to in the primaries, but when it comes down to the national election I'm going with the Republican even if it does mean John McCAIn.


9 posted on 01/16/2007 8:31:18 AM PST by princess leah
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To: rhombus

Either way. I know, I know, a NON-vote for Rudy will put a democrat in the WH. I cannot consciously cast a vote for a man who supports, or supported- depending on the day of the week) partial birth abortion.


10 posted on 01/16/2007 8:33:59 AM PST by admiralsn («º¿º»)
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To: Reagan Man

Rudy could be elected in the general election but he'll never make it through the Repulican primary process. He'd come in 5th in a 4 man race in SC...anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding himself.


11 posted on 01/16/2007 8:35:58 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: rhombus
I hope you are talking about the primaries.

It doesn't matter to Reagan Embarrassment. Republicans devouring themselves, that's all the fifth columnist wants.

12 posted on 01/16/2007 8:36:29 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Dreagon

Why did all the social conservatives vote for Bush? The lesser of 2 evils?


13 posted on 01/16/2007 8:36:34 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Reagan Man

FLOP


14 posted on 01/16/2007 8:36:52 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Reagan Man

I like Rudy. Rudy, however, will never be elected POTUS. Never.
IMO


15 posted on 01/16/2007 8:36:52 AM PST by steadcom
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To: princess leah

Amen to that. I shudder to think how things will go in '08.


16 posted on 01/16/2007 8:37:49 AM PST by tioga
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To: admiralsn

I understand your feelings. Here's mine. For me it is more important to keep any of the Democrats who are currently or are about to run out of the White House. I can't indulge myself or my feelings on any one particular issue and let a Democrat win. Rudy is not my first choice but in the end if we end up with him opposing just about any Democrat I can think of, I'll have to vote for Rudy and hope for the best.


17 posted on 01/16/2007 8:38:09 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Reagan Man
Is Rudy Likely to Be a Favorite or a Flop?

Vote for a liberal, you'll get liberalism
Don't vote (D/L). Don't vote (R/L). Don't vote for a letter of the alphabet.
Vote for a philosophy.Vote for a Conservative.

18 posted on 01/16/2007 8:39:23 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Reagan Man
Isn't abortion a state issue? I'd rather see Rudy run before McCain. At least you know where Giulliani stands. Frankly, abortion will always be around no matter how you feel about it. And yes, I'm against abortion. For me it is not the main issue that our country faces. Terrorism comes to mind.
19 posted on 01/16/2007 8:40:32 AM PST by poobear
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To: Reagan Man

The deciding issue in the primaries will be illegal aliens. Hunter might do better than Rudy.


20 posted on 01/16/2007 8:40:37 AM PST by Poincare
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