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Veterans Day faces expulsion by schools
The Washington Times ^ | 01.13.07

Posted on 01/15/2007 10:42:55 AM PST by Coleus

For World War II veteran Sam Stia, a legislative proposal that would cease requiring New Jersey schools to teach about Veterans Day and Memorial Day can be summed up in two words.

"That's wrong," Mr. Stia, 83, said from his Hamilton home, where he flies an American flag at half-staff to honor fallen soldiers. "We're just giving our flag away and our patriotism away."

Mr. Stia and other veterans are steamed about the proposal, which state lawmakers unanimously passed last month. It now awaits action by the governor. It was included as part of a larger measure designed to help control property taxes, mostly by abolishing some laws on school purchasing and public hearings.

Other holidays about which schools no longer would be required to teach include Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, Arbor Day and Commodore Barry Day, which commemorates Revolutionary War hero John Barry.

New Jersey schools must observe the holidays under a 1967 law designed to promote "the development of a higher spirit of patriotism." Florida, Nebraska and Washington are among states with similar laws. New Jersey American Legion and Veterans of Foreign Wars groups have asked Gov. Jon Corzine to veto the bill so schools still have to teach about Memorial Day and Veterans Day.

"It's not right. They're not going to know the sacrifices that were made so they can enjoy the protections that they have," said Hank Adams, New Jersey VFW adjutant and an Army and Coast Guard veteran. The governor hasn't decided how to proceed. "We're reviewing that bill," Corzine spokesman Anthony Coley said.

The law wouldn't ban schools from holding holiday commemorations, but requiring schools to honor the days guarantees children would learn about veterans, said Ray Zawacki, department adjutant for the American Legion of New Jersey.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: New Jersey; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: americanhistory; education; memorialday; nationalholidays; schools; veteransday
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Something like this happened one time before during a NJ republican administration.
Old White Men-Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Religious Freedom, Taken out of NJ Curriculum
 
Kids can skip school on Buddha's birthday and 74 other holidays
 
...But state Sen. John Adler, a sponsor of the bill, cited a 2004 report by a state commission that recommended giving schools more flexibility to decide holiday observations. He questioned whether schools even bother to recognize the holidays....
 
Contact Sen. Ader here:
SenAdler@njleg.org  New Jersey Legislature  Project Vote Smart

1 posted on 01/15/2007 10:42:56 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

always have time to celebrate Earth Day or something like that, though...


2 posted on 01/15/2007 10:49:42 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Coleus

The "PROGRESSIVES" are Destroying America!


3 posted on 01/15/2007 10:54:44 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Rakkasan1

Include the beer holiday May 5th.


4 posted on 01/15/2007 10:59:02 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: Coleus

Queer love day will still be taught, I bet.


5 posted on 01/15/2007 11:00:21 AM PST by Waco
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To: Coleus

If they aren't going to teach it then they shouldn't get those days off either...how would they feel about that?


6 posted on 01/15/2007 11:01:51 AM PST by 6ppc (Call Photo Reuters, that's the name, and away goes truth right down the drain. Photo Reuters!)
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To: Coleus
Bet today is a holiday though.
7 posted on 01/15/2007 11:04:36 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Coleus

This is just so wrong on so many counts...........


8 posted on 01/15/2007 11:09:52 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Waco
Queer love day will still be taught, I bet.

It'll be part of Feminist Gay Muslim Pride Day

9 posted on 01/15/2007 11:10:23 AM PST by teacherwoes (A fugitive from a Democratically-controlled Congress)
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To: Gabz; All
I am a teacher in NJ, and I make a vow right here and now, I will continue to teach the children of our school about Memorial Day, Veterans Day and Thanksgiving.

They will have to fire me before I will forsake them. I suspect our entire community (I live in the community I teach in) feel the same way.

BTW that may be hard to do, Tenure goes both ways, and I have been teaching for 25 years.

One other thing, anyone who lives in NJ. GO to the next School Board meeting and let you feelings be known.

I just got off the phone with one of the members of our Board and he is ticked off big time.

10 posted on 01/15/2007 11:13:26 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: mware

And we thought we defeated communism. Just goes to show, it marched on, unimpeaded and unnoticed.


11 posted on 01/15/2007 11:18:53 AM PST by marlon
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To: mware

I'm kind of curious and I don't mean to put you on the spot, but what was the rationale behind this, a cost-saving measure? And if so, do you think it likely it will save any money?


12 posted on 01/15/2007 11:20:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mware

You need to get people to call the Governor's office first.

Attendence at the next and future SB meetings will be needed if the Gov signs it so that your district doesn't drop the requirement for including the teaching of these.


With that said - good for you!!!!!!


13 posted on 01/15/2007 11:21:09 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: Churchillspirit
To be followed by the new "Undocumented Immigrant Day" celebration and parade. There will be a unfunded mandate to cover this for three days during the school year...
14 posted on 01/15/2007 11:23:33 AM PST by gdaddy (Stop Illegal Immigration, HR-1 and SB-1)
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To: Rakkasan1
always have time to celebrate Earth Day or something like that, though...

.............or Cinco de Mayo!

15 posted on 01/15/2007 11:27:13 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: gdaddy
.....and Spring Break will now be known as Pedophiles Pause and President's Day will be changed to Gay & Lesbian Pride Day....
16 posted on 01/15/2007 11:29:13 AM PST by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Billthedrill
From what I read about this issue, it sounds like it was dumped in another piece of legislation. I am willing to bet that half of those who voted for it were not even aware of it being in the bill.

Even the legislature in NJ is not that stupid.

I did read that the git who put this in claimed as an excuse that he did not think the schools were following the spirit of the law in regard to teaching about the holidays.

Now that is brillant logic, do away with it because the schools were not following the spirit of the law.

How about seeing that the law is enforced.

17 posted on 01/15/2007 11:34:30 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: marlon

I am so ashamed of being a teacher in NJ right now, you would not believe it.


18 posted on 01/15/2007 11:35:42 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: varon

oh yeah, forgot about that and "coming out day".


19 posted on 01/15/2007 11:39:10 AM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Rakkasan1
You can also contact Governor Corzine by writing to the

Office of the Governor,

P.O. Box 001,

Trenton, New Jersey

08625-0001,

or by calling (609) 777-2500.

20 posted on 01/15/2007 11:54:12 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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