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To: Campion
Pretty much every branch of Christianity did until very recently. Martin Luther railed against it.

And a hundred years ago, so did a lot of doctors who were convinced that it make you go blind or insane. Let's face it, all masturbation does is make you postpone the need to get a spouse, to start having kids with. That's why religion was against it, or anything that did not help increase the flock.

82 posted on 01/15/2007 8:57:34 AM PST by hunter112
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To: hunter112

You wrote:

"Let's face it, all masturbation does is make you postpone the need to get a spouse, to start having kids with. That's why religion was against it, or anything that did not help increase the flock."

No. Religion opposed masturbation because it was sinful. Also, you seem to think that the sin of masturbation is limited to only those who are unmarried. I guess you've never read anything at all in a newspaper or magazine or book about the rise of sexual addiction, internet porn, etc.? If Christians were only interested in increasing the flock then traditionally minded Christians would see no problem with artificial insemination!


93 posted on 01/15/2007 9:09:40 AM PST by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: hunter112
Let's face it, all masturbation does is make you postpone the need to get a spouse, to start having kids with. That's why religion was against it, or anything that did not help increase the flock.

Wrong. That isn't all it does.

It teaches you that your sexuality exists simply to serve your need for selfish pleasure, apart from being any sort of gift to anyone else, most particularly to God or to your (future) spouse.

It's a wretched preparation for marriage, because it teaches "lessons" that simply need to be unlearned to be happy in marriage, and to make your spouse happy in marriage.

114 posted on 01/15/2007 9:30:29 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: hunter112
"all masturbation does is make you postpone the need to get a spouse, to start having kids with."

Masturbation also trains you in self-gratification rather than self-donation. It makes real, responsive, spouse-centered sexual love difficult. It builds up habits and attitudes which sabotage intimacy in marriage.

394 posted on 01/15/2007 6:53:58 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Make love. Accept no substitutes.)
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