[veronica]

I think this saying, which I heard years ago, is generally true - "men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love." Of course sometimes two people meet at the right time and the right place and they click and can build a mutually loving and equal relationship, regardless of whether they engaged in sex at the get-go. But overall, I think for women, so-called casual sex is an empty experience.

I totally agree that the 60's were very poisonous to male-female relationships, and posted that here recently, on a thread about the 60's. Women who grew up in that era were sold a bill of goods.

[MozarkDawg]

I think this saying, which I heard years ago, is generally true - "men give love to get sex, women give sex to get love."

This one is even older: Women need a reason; men need a place.

[the OlLine Rebel]

The '60s were poison for all reasons. And I don't say that glibly. I really mean "all". There isn't 1 thing I've run across that didn't go downhill during or right after the '60s!

[chesley]

The 60s were poisonous in every way. If I could, I would cut those memories right out of my life.

[gcruse]

"Women who grew up in that era were sold a bill of goods."

Thing is, Dawn wasn't even born until 1970. She didn't come of age until the eighties. Methinks she protests too much.

[HitmanLV]

But overall, I think for women, so-called casual sex is an empty experience.

On balance that's true, but also note that women tend to start feeling love for men they are just having sex with. I'm reminded of an article I read about sex on college campuses. A young woman was enjoying a 'friends with benefits' relationship with another guy. At first it is noted how she describes it as 'cool,' and no emotional entanglements - they are just friends who have sex.

Well, that is until he decided to be 'friends with benefits' with a friend of hers - not in addition to, but instead of. This threw her into a state of depression and she needed serious counseling.

Well, I'm glad she wasn't emotionally involved! In fact, she was only getting good at lying to herself. The whole thing was a sham, but that wasn't surprising to anybody paying attention.

I think these scenes are not uncommon.

[HamiltonJay]

I think you backwards the saying, as I know it is as follows:

Women use love to find sex, men use sex to find love.

[weegee]

I totally agree that the 60's were very poisonous to male-female relationships, and posted that here recently, on a thread about the 60's. Women who grew up in that era were sold a bill of goods.

Bela Pelosi attacking Condi Rice over not having a husband or children shows that feminism was a lie. They do not support women in the workplace as they claimed. They support socialism and challenging the Western establishment. Your sex or skin color only matter if you are Politically Correct in your thoughts.