Obama's quiet years in N.Y.C.

Daily News ^ | 1/14/07 | HELEN KENNEDY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

[TADSLOS]

24K liberal. He's golden. He's run all the liberal traps, gone through all the liberal wickets. He's a victim of da man who re-invented himself. He's ready for launch.

[COUNTrecount]

What is interesting about Obama is that in over four decades he has stayed in exclusively left wing hothouses, with no exposure to the private sector, or American cultural mainstream.

So who is he fronting for? Has he been identified many years ago, like Clinton was, to be president,and supported and groomed for the position?

[justiceseeker93]

I just checked out some facts in The Almanac of American Politics, which is generally considered a reliable source for information such as this.

Obama's religion is listed as United Church of Christ. However, it is noted that he did indeed spend time in Indonesia as a child, where he attended a Muslim school for two years and a Catholic school for two years. No indication there as to whether the Muslim school was Wahabbi.

Incidentally, Obama wrote an earlier autobiography which was published in 1995.

[True-Stu]

Read the links on the UCC church in Chicago that appear above. This is one of the most radical/liberal black churches in America. I would hesitate to even call them Christian. It sounds more like Unitarian Universalist clap-trap to me.

[BackInBlack]

Oh, I don't quibble about his politics. I'm just saying he's not Muslim.

[BackInBlack]

Yeah, I've read that earlier book. He became Christian in the late 1980s, I think.

[firebrand]

The apartment was small, with slanting floors

Ah, one of the East Side's charming old-law tenements, where the floors on the two sides of the building slope toward the center. Now renting at a lower rate than Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

[Beckwith]

Barack Hussein Obama was a Muslim for almost 25 years.

Muslims view Obama as first a Muslim and as an apostate Muslim, he faces the death penalty in nearly the entire Islamic world.

There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Muslim scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, “one who turns his back on Islam,” an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed. At a minimum, other Muslims would shun him if not kill him and his mother. The fact they are eagerly welcomed by the Muslim community begs the question, is he their 'Manchurian' candidate?

At a minimum, Obama should be asked if he will support the efforts of Christian missionaries in Islamic countries to peacefully convert Muslims to Christianity.

[BackInBlack]

i read that part. he was never a practicing muslim. i honestly don't know what he called himself.

of course, on the radical politics, we agree: he's gotta be stopped.

[MaxMax]

Obama reads like the ultimate Sleeper to me.

[SuziQ]

Obama, who writes in his best-selling memoir

A best seller huh? I've never seen it anywhere. Who exactly bought this best seller?

[Beckwith]

I respectfully question the use of "Never."

I would suspect that he was a practicing Muslim during the time he spent at a madrassah in Indonesia.

[Beckwith]

Sadly, some people, and yes even here on this forum, will look at this information as an attempt to "destroy someone".

There is no question that I have cherry-picked the information on that page. However, there is no doubt that Obama has created a myth surrounding his background.

If any of the information here can be shown to be incorrect and a link provided (democraticunderground/daily kos/NY Times excepted), I will gladly update the current information.

[BackInBlack]

i read that thing already; you don't have to keep quoting it. i'm saying that's not true. obama didn't identify himself as a muslim before "converting," genuinely or not. he was raised in a secular home in which his grandmother was a nominal but non-practicing christian, and his mother was just plain secular. arguments can be made about whether his UCC church is "real christianity," and in my view it's pretty weak. but he simply wasn't a muslim.

[BackInBlack]

oops, sorry, i clicked on the wrong comment and thought you were just making the same post again.

regardless, there's a big difference between your asserting he was a muslim for 25 years and your suspicion that he was a muslim when he went to a nominally muslim school in jakarta. otherwise, wouldn't you have equal suspicion that he was a christian when he went to a christian school there?

[devolve]

[Lurking in Kansas]

... it bothered him to be the only black executive, he wrote, so he quit. Soon after, Obama lit out for a $13,000-a-year job as a community organizer in Chicago - where his destiny awaited.

Yeah, right. BARF.

[LIConFem]

His "Sleeper Cell" years?

[potlatch]

Lol, you did a lot of posting today. I missed some of these earliest ones.

Brand new graphics with Obama. Very neat ones, I like it!

[Beckwith]

wouldn't you have equal suspicion that he was a christian when he went to a christian school there?

No!

He didn't go to a Christian school, he went to a Catholic school

The are countless non-Catholics attending Catholic schools worldwide. They are always excused from religious instruction and ceremonies.

I am curious why you chose to spell Christian with lower case?