3/11: ETA Used Hexogen in the Bombing of Barajas Airport.

Libertad Digital ^ | 13 January 2007 | Libertad Digital (transl. J Aguilar)

[stm]

The guys stepping on that burning C-4 are lucky to still have all their toes. God watches out for children and idiots.

You carefully stick a thin knife blade between the two plastic halves of the body and twist. With a little work it pops right apart. The case snaps right back together when you are done.

[Sword_Svalbardt]

Does Cemtex use Hexogen in it? I'm ignorant as to that explosive. The reason I'm asking, we all know who supplies Cemtex in the world.

[31M20RedDevil]

You betcha,very effective defensive weapon.

Imagine 100 1/2" steel balls powered by a pound of C-4 (may be off on
exact details)

[Criminal Number 18F]

Do our troops still use claymores?

Overzealous interpretation of counter-mine treaties by military judge advocates caused them to collect all of ours in Afghanistan in 2002.

The odd thing is, the US didn't sign the treaty, and the treaty only bans booby-trap emplacement of the mine, but the military lawyers never miss a chance to do the enemy's work for him.

And yeah, we captured cases and cases of Iranian-made claymore copies; unmarked stuff made for terrorists. The lawyers' pals.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Diogenesis]

Courtesy of Islam:

[DBrow]

Hexogen, or RDX, is used not only in C4 but in Semtex as well as many other commercial and military explosives.

Cut the investigators some slack- a real investigation is plagued with noise, contamination, the effects of weather and water and many other factors.

On TV, they take a sample and a machine pops out the perfect, stable, incontrovertible answer. In real life, it's a bit more difficult.

There were questions about OKC, WTC 1, even Sterling Hall in 1970, as to just what was used.

[Cacique]

bump 4 L8R

[Cicero]

I presume this points to complicity of the Basques in the bombings, which is presumably why the Socialist government has been so eager to do a coverup. Basques and Muslims working together would not be at all surprising.

[tanuki]

That's what I thought at first-that it was Spanish dynamite stolen from a native mine. Then I heard it was titadine, a French dynamite popular with ETA. Now, if you believe El Mundo, it was an ANFO/RDX mixture. There's also some confusion about the origins and techniques used for the timers. What can I say, except the Spaniards themselves don't seem to be that confident about the official version.

[RayChuang88]

Sorry, but the Basque people do not have love for Muslims. Someone at ETA who has a college degree in chemistry may have "cooked up" an RDX-based explosive on a homemade basis. I'm surprised many terrorist groups have not tried to use explosives based on ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with fuel oil, an explosive that has spectacular results (if you remember the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the first World Trade Center attack in 1993).

[Cicero]

Not the Basque people, but the Basque terrorists. For whatever reasons, there has been a good deal of cooperation between Islamic terrorists and European Marxist terrorists. They are very far from agreeing with each other, yet the leftists and the Islamists have been working together on many occasions.

[spunkets]

This all looks like that Gen. Petain conspiracy jibberish about the OK City bombing. I think the info they had after the attack and the months following was correct. N. African jihadis did it with the stolen dynamite. There's nothing to this, but buzzwords and mystery.

[J Aguilar]

Ramius,

Yes, I am in Spain.

Is there any discussion that maybe ETA is colluding with other terrorist organizations, like Al Queda?

Well, look at these news from City FM radio that came up last fall.

3/11: ETA Provided False Identifications to the Islamic Terrorists that Attacked the WTC in 1993

ETA has collaborated, collaborates and will collaborate with Islamic groups.

spunkets,

Sure they do. It was traced to an explosives(dynamite) theft from a mining op and the person(s) that diverted the mat'l were IDed and arrested. The 3-11 attack was a jihadi op(N African muslims) and they obtained the dynamite from the diverter(s) that worked at the mine op.

Of course the people that diverted the material were identified, they worked for the National Police!

One of the miners was Trashorras, read what he told EL MUNDO newspaper last september:

3/11: Trashorras talks to EL MUNDO

Read also what declared witness Lavandera on Toro and Trashorras, the two miners that alleged stole the explosives:

3/11: Lavandera talks to EL MUNDO

You would also like to read the testimony of Caceres-Vadillo, the chief explosive expert on the site, the man on the spot, I think you say. Literally from the 3/11 Judicial summary:

The operative techniques and procedures used [to try to deactivate the devices found] followed the first hypothesis, according to the damage of the explosions in the trains, that it was high explosive, not believing at that point that it was dynamite

And Goma-2 ECO, the explosive allegedly stole by those miners that collaborated with the Police, is a dynamite, and a rather low speed one.

Moreover, 70% of the Spaniards think 3/11 is not clear, not even essentially.

You may think that the Jews live happy in Theresienstadt, but the Truth is that they are being exterminated. Do not publicize National Socialist propaganda, please. It kills.

Sword_Svalbardt,

Hexogen or cyclonite is the active principle of RDX, C4 and Semtex.

Cicero,

I presume this points to complicity of the Basques in the bombings, which is presumably why the Socialist government has been so eager to do a coverup.

You hit the nail on the head.

Basques and Muslims working together would not be at all surprising.

Basques and pro-Socialist members of the Spanish Secret services and security forces, I am afraid, Cicero. Spain was evolving into a more European-like state, and the regional Nationalists and Socialists had to stop this trend or dissapear. Muslims were only used as scapegoats.

tanuki,

That's what I thought at first-that it was Spanish dynamite stolen from a native mine. Then I heard it was titadine, a French dynamite popular with ETA. Now, if you believe El Mundo, it was an ANFO/RDX mixture. There's also some confusion about the origins and techniques used for the timers. What can I say, except the Spaniards themselves don't seem to be that confident about the official version.

EL MUNDO does not say that there was an ANFO/RDX. The Ministry of Interior says what exploded at Barajas airport was a mixture of amonal or amosal, which is not ANFO but something similar; with Hexogen, which is not RDX but its active material.

Regarding 3/11, the chief explosive expert on the site declares before Judge Del Olmo that he assumed it was high speed explosive, not dynamite, according to the damage on the trains, and he acted accordingly.

Moreover, the report on the analysis performed at the explosion sites on the trains is irregular, does not identify the composition of the explosive used, and cannot be employed as evidence, according to the Spanish law.

EL MUNDO says nothing, but what is written in the Summary, in the Ministry reports or the Spanish Criminal Law.

RayChuang88,

Yusuf Galán is an example of a former ETA political wing member that converted to Islam and carried out terrorism support tasks.

It is true that ETA can cook Hexogen, or obtain RDX or Semtex from any other terrorist group, including Islamic ones, because it seems they meet to exchange materials.

spunkets,

This all looks like that Gen. Petain conspiracy jibberish about the OK City bombing. I think the info they had after the attack and the months following was correct. N. African jihadis did it with the stolen dynamite. There's nothing to this, but buzzwords and mystery.

I don't know the investigations on the OK bombing, but I know the investigations on 3/11, and the jihadist you say, though one of them had a Spanish partner and a son studying in a Catholic school ( 3/11: The Amazing Life and Death of Jamal Ahmidan (I) ) cannot be linked to the trains but with an irregular explosives report that contradicts the testimony of the chief expert on the site.

It is as saying that a body had ten .44 wounds whilst the suspect allegedly carried a .22 gun.

There is no way to link those alleged "Jihadists" with what detonated in the trains, without breaking the law, that is a FACT, not an opinion.

And it is another FACT, not an opinion, that the National Police has harassed a girl for hanging from his home a banner saying: "Who is behind 3/11?"

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that chief police officers are indicted on forging reports in the 3/11 case to avoid any reference to ETA.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that Police Officers are being investigating for dynamite trafficking in Madrid, one of them was in the Police precinct were a key 3/11 evidence appeared.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that informer Farssaoui has denounced his controllers, accusing them, among other things, of trying to send him to the apartment where that same afternoon the alleged perpetrators of 3/11 committed suicide.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that the autopsy reports of those bodies do not exist.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that 70% of the Spaniards above 18 do not think that the essential truth about 3/11 is already known.

Those are some of the FACTS. American and the rest of people from the Anglosphere now are free to access them and build their own opinion, a right denied until now by the MSM.

We report, you decide.

[Sword_Svalbardt]

Guess who is providing the Semtex? That is a Soviet made product. So, our red star and sickle buddies are still alive and well in western Europe.

Regards,

SS

[J Aguilar]

EL MUNDO tells something about that the hexogen detected is a component of RDX or Semtex that could have been purchased in Eastern Europe before the so called "truce".

ETA has an effective supplying network that from Southern France reaches the Balkans and Eastern Europe, and in occasions they contact Middle East groups.

Regards,

J Aguilar

[Sword_Svalbardt]

The old eastern block manufactured Cemtex - a Soviet version of C-4 (at least something like it). Known as a plastique, the material is commonly used by terrorist networks, and Soviet made explosive devices - Like the American PETN, which is virtually everywhere as a propellant and an explosive.

SS