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3/11: ETA Used Hexogen in the Bombing of Barajas Airport.
Libertad Digital ^ | 13 January 2007 | Libertad Digital (transl. J Aguilar)

Posted on 01/13/2007 12:34:32 PM PST by J Aguilar

The Ministry of Interior reports on the explosives two weeks later.
ETA Used Amonal or Amosal Mixed with Hexogen to Increase the Destructive Power in the Attack at T-4 [Barajas Airport Terminal #4]

The attack at the parking of the T-4 terminal in the Barajas airport, that perpetrated ETA the last December 30th, was carried out with a mix of explosives, one of inorganic nature, with a nitrate base, like amonal or amosal [or ANFO], and the second, hexogen, as a multiplier of the detonating effect with the objective of increasing the destructive power, according to the information provided this Saturday by the Ministry of Interior through the General Director’s Office of the Police and Civil Guard. The hexogen, which is a high power explosive, has been employed in several occasions since 1994 by the terrorist organisation ETA as charge as well as in detonators.

Ground Zero

LD (Europa Press) Since the attack, the specialists of the General Offices of the Scientific Police and the Technicians in Explosives Deactivation (TEDAX) have collected +200 samples in the affected area, which are being processed.

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By J Aguilar,

Why is this so important? Because the explosive used in 3/11 is still unknown, and according to the main expert on explosives present that day at Atocha station, it was used a high brisance one, such as hexogen.

For instance, amonium nitrate has an approximate detonating speed, related to power and brisance (fragmenting capacity), of 4000 meters per second, Goma-2 ECO 5300 m/s, Tytadin 50 6500 m/s, TNT 6900 m/s and pure hexogen 8300 m/sec.

After such big discussion among the Black Pawns, the private citizens that are investigating the 3/11 massacre, on explosive composition, explosive power, brisance and the effects of the shock wave in metal sheets... is ETA sending a message inside another message to the Zapatero government?

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Other news from the Spanish Free Media concerning 3/11:

Another poll from EL MUNDO regarding 3/11. 800 Spaniards nationwide asked between December 26-28th 2006.

3/11 Attacks. The Search for the Truth. Poll from EL MUNDO-SIGMA DOS

Right column

Between brackets, October 2006 results.

1. Do you think essentially that all the truth about 3/11 is already known?
No: 70.4 %..... (67.5 %)
Yes: 21 %..... (24.3%)
No answer/don’t know: 8.6 %..... (8.2 %)

2. Who do you think has been more interested in finding all the truth about 3/11?
The Press: 57.5 %..... (43.7 %)
Justice: 14.6 %..... (15.8 %)
NA/DK: 13.4 %..... (22.1 %)
Parliament: 8.2 %..... (8.4 %)
Police: 6.3 %..... (10.1 %)

3. Do you think that the Zapatero government is interested in that the public knows all the truth about 3/11?
No: 50.9 %..... (43.1 %)
Yes: 39.7 %..... (46.3 %)
NA/DK: 9.4 %..... (10.6 %)

Left column

4. Do you think the 3/11 trial will essentially clarify what happened?
No: 58.7 %
Yes: 30.3 %
NA/DK: 11 %

5. Do you think that the press should keep investigating what happened in 3/11?
Yes: 77.6 %
No: 18.4 %
NA/DK: 4 %

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By J Aguilar,

Indeed last months’ efforts have contributed to an increase in people thinking that the truth about 3/11 is not known, now reaching seven of ten Spaniards. The Justice, Parliament and Police loose confidence, which are close or into single digit values.

The confidence of the Spaniards in the will of the Zapatero government to fully investigate the massacre shrinks, with only the group of people between 45-64 years old, majoritarily thinking so, which well portrays the age group that supports Socialism in Spain. Finally it is especially shameful for our Third Branch that not even the Socialist voters think the 3/11 trial will clarify anything.

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I haven't published the temporary conclusion of this issue yet:

Thousands of donations “from Spain and abroad”.
The two police officers jailed for talking to EL MUNDO go home for Christmas after collecting the CEP their bails.

The two civil servants from the Police jailed for talking to the newspaper EL MUNDO have been released this Sunday, after collecting the bail of 150,000 euro that judge Juan Del Olmo imposed to each one of them. The collection carried out by the Spanish Police Confederation (CEP) [a police union] provoked a massive response, with donations coming “from all corners of Spain, from the European Union and even from Latin America”, pointed out to LIBERTAD DIGITAL Rodrigo Gavilán. After remaining in Alcalá-Meco prison for 24 days, the police officers that helped to uncover the Goma-2 trafficking plot inside the Police, will stay for Christmas Eve with their family, as it was the objective of the CEP. The Ministry of Interior, however, continues its harassment campaign and had suspended them.

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By J Aguilar,

It is a nice Christmas tale. The CEP police union collected the first amount, 150,000 euro, in a few days, and came to pay it in order to free its associated, inspector Jesús Parrilla. However, he refused to leave prison if agent Celestino Rivera, associated to SUP pro-socialist police union, remained there. Therefore, CEP set the objective of reaching 300,000 euro collected before Christmas Eve. It seemed impossible in so short amount of time, however, on Saturday 23rd, a businessman, reader of EL MUNDO newspaper, offered to add the remaining 70,000 euro. A Caja Madrid branch office was opened on Sunday only to pay the bails. The checks were on Judge Del Olmo’s table that same day.

Now both police officers have the problem of feeding their families while they are suspended for defending the goodwill Spaniards from this National-Socialist regime.

More news on 3/11 investigation here:
Volunteers for the investigation of 3/11
English Thread @ Fondo Documental

More data on 3/11 here:
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 1
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 2
The Mystery of 3/11 - Part 3
3/11 Revisited - Part 1

More data on 3/11 in Spanish here:

Luis del Pino's blog
Kickjor's blog


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To: 31M20RedDevil

The guys stepping on that burning C-4 are lucky to still have all their toes. God watches out for children and idiots.

You carefully stick a thin knife blade between the two plastic halves of the body and twist. With a little work it pops right apart. The case snaps right back together when you are done.


21 posted on 01/13/2007 2:52:15 PM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: J Aguilar

Does Cemtex use Hexogen in it? I'm ignorant as to that explosive. The reason I'm asking, we all know who supplies Cemtex in the world.


22 posted on 01/13/2007 2:57:20 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Albert Barr

You betcha,very effective defensive weapon.

Imagine 100 1/2" steel balls powered by a pound of C-4 (may be off on
exact details)


23 posted on 01/13/2007 3:05:24 PM PST by 31M20RedDevil ( Jimmy Carter : the sorriest President of them all)
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To: Albert Barr
Do our troops still use claymores?

Overzealous interpretation of counter-mine treaties by military judge advocates caused them to collect all of ours in Afghanistan in 2002.

The odd thing is, the US didn't sign the treaty, and the treaty only bans booby-trap emplacement of the mine, but the military lawyers never miss a chance to do the enemy's work for him.

And yeah, we captured cases and cases of Iranian-made claymore copies; unmarked stuff made for terrorists. The lawyers' pals.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

24 posted on 01/13/2007 3:11:50 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (This tagline has been laid off so the other one can get the new min. wage. It will now turn to crime)
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To: 31M20RedDevil
Courtesy of Islam:



25 posted on 01/13/2007 3:16:53 PM PST by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: J Aguilar
Hexogen, or RDX, is used not only in C4 but in Semtex as well as many other commercial and military explosives.

Cut the investigators some slack- a real investigation is plagued with noise, contamination, the effects of weather and water and many other factors.

On TV, they take a sample and a machine pops out the perfect, stable, incontrovertible answer. In real life, it's a bit more difficult.

There were questions about OKC, WTC 1, even Sterling Hall in 1970, as to just what was used.
26 posted on 01/13/2007 4:03:18 PM PST by DBrow
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To: J Aguilar

bump 4 L8R


27 posted on 01/13/2007 4:47:54 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: J Aguilar

I presume this points to complicity of the Basques in the bombings, which is presumably why the Socialist government has been so eager to do a coverup. Basques and Muslims working together would not be at all surprising.


28 posted on 01/13/2007 5:16:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: spunkets

That's what I thought at first-that it was Spanish dynamite stolen from a native mine. Then I heard it was titadine, a French dynamite popular with ETA. Now, if you believe El Mundo, it was an ANFO/RDX mixture. There's also some confusion about the origins and techniques used for the timers. What can I say, except the Spaniards themselves don't seem to be that confident about the official version.


29 posted on 01/13/2007 6:28:17 PM PST by tanuki
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To: Cicero

Sorry, but the Basque people do not have love for Muslims. Someone at ETA who has a college degree in chemistry may have "cooked up" an RDX-based explosive on a homemade basis. I'm surprised many terrorist groups have not tried to use explosives based on ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with fuel oil, an explosive that has spectacular results (if you remember the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the first World Trade Center attack in 1993).


30 posted on 01/13/2007 7:42:44 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88

Not the Basque people, but the Basque terrorists. For whatever reasons, there has been a good deal of cooperation between Islamic terrorists and European Marxist terrorists. They are very far from agreeing with each other, yet the leftists and the Islamists have been working together on many occasions.


31 posted on 01/13/2007 7:53:12 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tanuki

This all looks like that Gen. Petain conspiracy jibberish about the OK City bombing. I think the info they had after the attack and the months following was correct. N. African jihadis did it with the stolen dynamite. There's nothing to this, but buzzwords and mystery.


32 posted on 01/13/2007 11:43:19 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets; Ramius; Sword_Svalbardt; Cicero; tanuki; RayChuang88
Ramius,

Yes, I am in Spain.

Is there any discussion that maybe ETA is colluding with other terrorist organizations, like Al Queda?

Well, look at these news from City FM radio that came up last fall.

3/11: ETA Provided False Identifications to the Islamic Terrorists that Attacked the WTC in 1993

ETA has collaborated, collaborates and will collaborate with Islamic groups.

spunkets,

Sure they do. It was traced to an explosives(dynamite) theft from a mining op and the person(s) that diverted the mat'l were IDed and arrested. The 3-11 attack was a jihadi op(N African muslims) and they obtained the dynamite from the diverter(s) that worked at the mine op.

Of course the people that diverted the material were identified, they worked for the National Police!

One of the miners was Trashorras, read what he told EL MUNDO newspaper last september:

3/11: Trashorras talks to EL MUNDO

Read also what declared witness Lavandera on Toro and Trashorras, the two miners that alleged stole the explosives:

3/11: Lavandera talks to EL MUNDO

You would also like to read the testimony of Caceres-Vadillo, the chief explosive expert on the site, the man on the spot, I think you say. Literally from the 3/11 Judicial summary:

The operative techniques and procedures used [to try to deactivate the devices found] followed the first hypothesis, according to the damage of the explosions in the trains, that it was high explosive, not believing at that point that it was dynamite

And Goma-2 ECO, the explosive allegedly stole by those miners that collaborated with the Police, is a dynamite, and a rather low speed one.

Moreover, 70% of the Spaniards think 3/11 is not clear, not even essentially.

You may think that the Jews live happy in Theresienstadt, but the Truth is that they are being exterminated. Do not publicize National Socialist propaganda, please. It kills.

Sword_Svalbardt,

Hexogen or cyclonite is the active principle of RDX, C4 and Semtex.

Cicero,

I presume this points to complicity of the Basques in the bombings, which is presumably why the Socialist government has been so eager to do a coverup.

You hit the nail on the head.

Basques and Muslims working together would not be at all surprising.

Basques and pro-Socialist members of the Spanish Secret services and security forces, I am afraid, Cicero. Spain was evolving into a more European-like state, and the regional Nationalists and Socialists had to stop this trend or dissapear. Muslims were only used as scapegoats.

tanuki,

That's what I thought at first-that it was Spanish dynamite stolen from a native mine. Then I heard it was titadine, a French dynamite popular with ETA. Now, if you believe El Mundo, it was an ANFO/RDX mixture. There's also some confusion about the origins and techniques used for the timers. What can I say, except the Spaniards themselves don't seem to be that confident about the official version.

EL MUNDO does not say that there was an ANFO/RDX. The Ministry of Interior says what exploded at Barajas airport was a mixture of amonal or amosal, which is not ANFO but something similar; with Hexogen, which is not RDX but its active material.

Regarding 3/11, the chief explosive expert on the site declares before Judge Del Olmo that he assumed it was high speed explosive, not dynamite, according to the damage on the trains, and he acted accordingly.

Moreover, the report on the analysis performed at the explosion sites on the trains is irregular, does not identify the composition of the explosive used, and cannot be employed as evidence, according to the Spanish law.

EL MUNDO says nothing, but what is written in the Summary, in the Ministry reports or the Spanish Criminal Law.

RayChuang88,

Yusuf Galán is an example of a former ETA political wing member that converted to Islam and carried out terrorism support tasks.

It is true that ETA can cook Hexogen, or obtain RDX or Semtex from any other terrorist group, including Islamic ones, because it seems they meet to exchange materials.

spunkets,

This all looks like that Gen. Petain conspiracy jibberish about the OK City bombing. I think the info they had after the attack and the months following was correct. N. African jihadis did it with the stolen dynamite. There's nothing to this, but buzzwords and mystery.

I don't know the investigations on the OK bombing, but I know the investigations on 3/11, and the jihadist you say, though one of them had a Spanish partner and a son studying in a Catholic school ( 3/11: The Amazing Life and Death of Jamal Ahmidan (I) ) cannot be linked to the trains but with an irregular explosives report that contradicts the testimony of the chief expert on the site.

It is as saying that a body had ten .44 wounds whilst the suspect allegedly carried a .22 gun.

There is no way to link those alleged "Jihadists" with what detonated in the trains, without breaking the law, that is a FACT, not an opinion.

And it is another FACT, not an opinion, that the National Police has harassed a girl for hanging from his home a banner saying: "Who is behind 3/11?"

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that chief police officers are indicted on forging reports in the 3/11 case to avoid any reference to ETA.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that Police Officers are being investigating for dynamite trafficking in Madrid, one of them was in the Police precinct were a key 3/11 evidence appeared.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that informer Farssaoui has denounced his controllers, accusing them, among other things, of trying to send him to the apartment where that same afternoon the alleged perpetrators of 3/11 committed suicide.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that the autopsy reports of those bodies do not exist.

And it is a FACT, not an opinion, that 70% of the Spaniards above 18 do not think that the essential truth about 3/11 is already known.

Those are some of the FACTS. American and the rest of people from the Anglosphere now are free to access them and build their own opinion, a right denied until now by the MSM.

We report, you decide.
33 posted on 01/14/2007 3:13:59 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

Guess who is providing the Semtex? That is a Soviet made product. So, our red star and sickle buddies are still alive and well in western Europe.

Regards,

SS


34 posted on 01/14/2007 11:50:37 AM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: Sword_Svalbardt

EL MUNDO tells something about that the hexogen detected is a component of RDX or Semtex that could have been purchased in Eastern Europe before the so called "truce".

ETA has an effective supplying network that from Southern France reaches the Balkans and Eastern Europe, and in occasions they contact Middle East groups.

Regards,

J Aguilar


35 posted on 01/15/2007 1:38:33 PM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: J Aguilar

The old eastern block manufactured Cemtex - a Soviet version of C-4 (at least something like it). Known as a plastique, the material is commonly used by terrorist networks, and Soviet made explosive devices - Like the American PETN, which is virtually everywhere as a propellant and an explosive.

SS


36 posted on 01/15/2007 3:58:29 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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