"If you encounter any Boers, you really must not loot 'em and if you wish to leave these shores, for pity's sake don't shoot 'em." "THE BREAKER"
Posted on 01/13/2007 9:53:08 AM PST by RaceBannon
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The TV series NCIS is one of my favorites. I love the investigative techniques they use .. and it saddens me to even think there would be some within the NCIS organization who would rather lie about their own military personnel than find out the real truth.
Hopefully, the truth will win out.
The Clintoon Perfumed Princes in the Navy Jagoff corp should be discharged for allegiance to the rats instead of America.
It would be interesting to see the political party support these Jagoffs and NCIS investigators had before these kangaroo trials.
NCIS fabricating statements and evidence? I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.
Thanks for the ping Race.
Why would the NCIS fabricate evidence? What does it gain them to see these soldiers convicted?
I wonder what murtha offered them?
Career points. Convictions uber alles. It aint a successful investigation if there's no body in the lock up afterward.
Also, if you paid any attention during the previous decade, it was all the sudden "trendy" again for anti-establishment types to join such organizations to make sure those eeveel monsters in the US military didn't get away with anything.
There's also a tendency toward a bureaucratic mindset that demands that any investigation means guilt - period. And when guilt cant be established, that only means the guilty was too smart to get caught.
It serves a political purpose and helps make a clean name for those who prosecute.
It provides a clean name for those who accuse.
It helps coverup things that actually go on.
"If you encounter any Boers, you really must not loot 'em and if you wish to leave these shores, for pity's sake don't shoot 'em." "THE BREAKER"
nuff said... i agree....
This thread may interest you.
Thanks for the invite...
Interesting turn of events. The issue if Cui Bono arises. Who has the most of gain from lying about the statements. Lt.Phan or the NCIS agents?
If Lt Phan is telling the truth then he is alledging collusion to fabricate statements between the NCIS agents. If the agents are telling the truth the Lt.Phan is perjuring himself in an attempt to impeach the evidence against him.
What is at risk?
The agents?...Their careers and five years in prison. The upside for the agents is they get a conviction in a high profile case.
Lt.Phan? 28 years in prison and his commission. The upside for Phan is he avoids going to prison,
You decide who has more motivation to lie.
I kept reading and reading but couldn't find the part about the rubber hose. Bad investigative reporting! I know that picture is on file somewhere...
This is what happens when your fadora gets to tight.
I'd rather keep an open mind and see what happens next. Could get interesting.
Fair enough...But you will agree that one or the other is lying?
But it's not Lt Phan, as you suggested.
It was the witness, Faulkner,who testified "that a statement the Marine Corps' Navy law enforcement agency attributed to him contained falsehoods."
So it's not the accused vs. the agents. It's a witness vs. the agents.
I can't see any motivate for the witness to lie so I could assume, using your calculus, that the agents are lying weasels. But like I said, I'm keeping an open mind.
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