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My questions... This trial didn't take any time at all...how should we interpret this? Why didn't the defense take more time building their case? OK, so the trial is over just like that. The mindless drones in the jury apparently bought the government arguments lock, stock and barrel. So, we return to the original question, what do we do next? Stand behind him in appeals, or ..."Just go about your business...nothing to see here..."
1 posted on 01/12/2007 2:09:55 PM PST by Wasichu
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Anyone know how long till court records and transcript will be available?


2 posted on 01/12/2007 2:11:51 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Wasichu
The defendant wasn't allowed to defend himself--at least not in the manner he preferred.

Now, hopefully, this will go to the next level court on appeal.

3 posted on 01/12/2007 2:14:15 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: Wasichu

I heartily recommend John Ross' book, "Unintended Consequences".


5 posted on 01/12/2007 2:15:09 PM PST by IncPen (When Al Gore Finished the Internet, he invented Global Warming)
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To: Wasichu
The "judge" did not allow the defendant to testify.
6 posted on 01/12/2007 2:15:16 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Lord knows he really hurt people by keeping those guns in his house. /sarcasm

We surely don't want the government to have to worry about a well-armed citizentry.
7 posted on 01/12/2007 2:29:44 PM PST by Lusis
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To: Wasichu

The story has been updated and expanded...here is the new version online (same weblink):

[b]Fincher Guilty In Machine Gun Case
This article was published on Friday, January 12, 2007 3:37 PM CST in News By The Morning News[/b]

It took a jury just under five hours to find Hollis Wayne Fincher guilty of owning illegal machine guns and a sawed-off shotgun.

Closing arguments in federal court in Fayetteville wrapped at mid-morning and the case went to the federal jury about 10:30 a.m. The jury returned its verdict about 3:20 p.m.

According to police, Fincher had two .308-caliber machine guns, homemade versions of the Browning model 1919. The other firearms were 9 mm STEN design submachine guns and a sawed-off shotgun.

The defense tried to make the case an issue of the Constitution versus federal gun laws. The government tried to make the case as simple as possible for jurors — Fincher had the machine guns and they weren’t registered as required by federal law.

A major issue was whether the Militia of Washington County is a valid state militia for second amendment purposes. Judge Jimm Larry Hendren ruled it’s not.


8 posted on 01/12/2007 2:40:04 PM PST by Wasichu
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Bump for later study.


9 posted on 01/12/2007 2:42:43 PM PST by Pontiac (All are worthy of freedom, none are incapable.)
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To: Wasichu

How can someone in good concience vote to convict someone who wasn't allowed to voice his defense in court? I certainly would not.

I would love to hear the instructions the jury was given.


10 posted on 01/12/2007 2:48:24 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: Wasichu

Given that the defense was denied the opportunity to present their Constitutional defense, perhaps they felt a guilty verdict was a given, and was just waiting for it so they could start the procedural appeal based on that denial.

IOW, maybe this is unfolding according to their game plan.


12 posted on 01/12/2007 3:09:55 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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I don't know this case but in any case...BLOAT


17 posted on 01/12/2007 4:18:27 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment then you don't understand America.)
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You can't appeal unless you lose, in most circumstances anyway. He lost, now he can appeal. We should support the effort.


21 posted on 01/12/2007 5:06:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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in court is it proper to ask the judge for his definition of 'inalienable' before arguments... or 'shall not' or infringed...

just wondering...

teeman8r


28 posted on 01/12/2007 7:07:51 PM PST by teeman8r
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Previous thread on Hollis Wayne Fincher's case...

Trial will debate 2nd Amendment rights

33 posted on 01/12/2007 9:41:47 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment then you don't understand America.)
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What was the business with the sawed off shotgun?...That is a weapon for armed robbery not defense. I believe it is also a violation of Arkansas gun laws as well...


51 posted on 01/12/2007 10:38:18 PM PST by tomcorn
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Another previous thread on the Hollis Wayne Fincher case. 11/10/06

ATF Raid Nets Militia Man, Weapons Rap

60 posted on 01/12/2007 11:35:32 PM PST by TigersEye (If you don't understand the 2nd Amendment then you don't understand America.)
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To: Wasichu

The Gov. Org. found a "judge" who was happy to do their bidding, preventing the defense from putting their intended case, or even mentioning the Constitution, 2nd Amendment, true definition of "Militia", his own states definition of "Militia", Jury Nullification, etc.

IOW, he was railroaded with the help of a compliant "judge".

I have been following the details of this case, it serves to prove that "Fair Trial" in America is now a quaint MYTH!


71 posted on 01/13/2007 12:52:55 AM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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This will be a very interesting read, book mark this one


72 posted on 01/13/2007 12:54:04 AM PST by Dov in Houston (Don't try to confuse me with facts. It's my way or the highway)
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I don't understand where the problem lies: everybody shows up and votes with shotgun.

Look, if you show up at the interview with a shotgun: you get hired right?

If you show up at a union meeting with a few shotguns: they listen to you.

If you show up at a union meeting with a few shotguns and they have .50 BMG's posted everywhere: you listen to them.

That's the "civilized" way. What else do you want?

A couple guys got buried. They had union reps.

Imagine what would happen if you had a degree here in Michigan and you applied for a bagger position? That's when the shotgun barrel is placed beneath the jaw of the supervisor, and a question is posed respecting "exploitation". Do you "need" a job (or not). Maybe the employer tells you that you're "over-qualified", but that your 10 yr old daughter would be very nice.

Question comes down to whether or not you need to eat, or wheether you like Nancy Pelosi. Because no matter how you cut it, slice it/dice it, that's how where going.


167 posted on 01/13/2007 10:52:50 PM PST by raygun (Do me a real solid and sit in my double-parked car downstairs while I run to get some birds, O.k?)
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To: Wasichu

Bump.


211 posted on 01/15/2007 1:13:32 PM PST by stevio (God, Guns, and Guts made America. A politician against any of the 3 doesn't get my vote. (NRA))
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I would interpret it as...

The second amendment is really for all intents and purposes dead..

222 posted on 01/15/2007 3:57:57 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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