Texas Congressman Ron Paul files for GOP presidential bid

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[CWOJackson]

You almost make it sound like a spectator sport...sitting in your back yard watching the squirrel and nut.

[BigSkyFreeper]

It's not a war unless you fight it to WIN. Then the funerals mean something. You seem to overlook that.

You seem to forget that this war isn't a war against another country, but a war against an ideology, and that it didn't just begin in Afghanistan and it won't end in Iraq. As CWO said, this war knows no boundaries.

[CWOJackson]

I would dearly love to hear how Ron Paul would word his much demanded declaration of war.

The United States hereby declares war on...uh...well...on...a...

[dcwusmc]

If you are going into a country which has been used as a staging area for terrorists (and how do you fight an ideology, anyway? Who and where do you attack?), you DO fight it as we did Japan, who were the nearest equivalent to what we're fighting now... you break the will of the "host" country to provide them support. You make it PERSONAL to the country and its leadership. Remember Moammar Khaddafi? Remember how quick he stopped supporting terrorists after we made it PERSONAL to him what the price would be? He really did stop for a LONG time... then even gave up his nuke program after 9-11, because he didn't want to be on the hitlist. What's so hard about that?

[dread78645]

...he voted against the WOT

Actually he voted NO on authorizing military force in Iraq.
How much Saddam's Iraq was involved in global terrorism is something honest folks disagree on ...

... and tax cuts.

Nope.

• Voted YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends.
• Voted YES on providing tax relief and simplification.
• Voted YES on making permanent an increase in the child tax credit.
• Voted YES on permanently eliminating the marriage penalty.
• Voted YES on making the Bush tax cuts permanent.
• Voted YES on $99 B economic stimulus: capital gains & income tax cuts.
• Voted YES on Tax cut package of $958 B over 10 years.
• Voted YES on eliminating the Estate Tax.
• Voted YES on eliminating the "marriage penalty".
• Voted YES on $46 billion in tax cuts for small business.
• Overhaul income tax; end capital gains & inheritance tax.
• Phaseout the death tax.
• Rated 89% by NTU, indicating a "Taxpayer's Friend" on tax votes. (Ranked #2, exceeded only by Jeff Flake of Arizona with 90%)

[dcwusmc]

I notice you did not respond to the meat of my reply... WHERE IS THE AUTHORITY FOR FEDGOV TO BE INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

[BigSkyFreeper]

LOL

[CWOJackson]

"If you are going into a country which has been used as a staging area for terrorists you DO fight it as we did Japan..."

I really do hate to break this to you but we've found our enemies in this country...should we carpet bomb Toledo?

We've found them in Canada. Nuke Vancouver?

We've found them in London. Time to send some cruise missile to Piccadilly Circus.

I think the Urban League or America would prefer we not use your manual of war.

[nopardons]

His antiwar stance is damning enough. He's a KOOK and is the rights version of Kusinich; perhaps worse.

In any event, should he really enter the '08 GOP presidential primary, he will be made the butt of every joke on T.V. and in the papers and waste his time and ours.

[BigSkyFreeper]

WHERE IS THE AUTHORITY FOR FEDGOV TO BE INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Ask your Congressman, see what kind of response you get.

[CWOJackson]

Thank God adults are in charge.

[budwiesest]

I have no problem calling it a war; I've been to the funerals.

If this is a war (and they seem to think it is) we should respond accordingly.

The first act would be to dismiss charges against our soldiers for activities in Iraq, regardless of the severity.

Secondly, withdraw all troops and personnel. Follow this with a period of 'dead calm'. Allow some time for factions to come to some sort of 'peace' among themselves, if it is possible. Begin the deportation of Islamists to their country of origin.

At the first sign of hostility toward the U.S., attack with a vengence not seen before. Don't stop with Iraq, let Iran and Syria have a piece of the action too.

Do it from the air, do it with nukes if need be, but just do it. Then, it will qualify as 'war'- one that you may not have to fight again for a hundred years or more.

This will also buy street 'cred' with the Chinese and Russians. They'll think you're nuts, and that's always a good thing-keeping your enemies guessing. When at 'war', don't let your enemy sucker you into a 'fight'.

[CWOJackson]

"WHERE IS THE AUTHORITY FOR FEDGOV TO BE INVOLVED IN THESE THINGS IN THE FIRST PLACE?"

It came crashing down on New York sidewalks a few years ago.

[BigSkyFreeper]

If Ron Paul were to win, I expect Springtime For Hitler will be played at the inaugural ball.

[CWOJackson]

I hate to be so blunt but your idea is incredibly stupid. I'd try to go into more detail but that simple statement pretty much covers it.

[onyx]

**crickets**

[CWOJackson]

"If Ron Paul were to win..."

And despite Al Gore's best efforts Baghdad would be buried until sixteen feet of snow.

[dcwusmc]

No, it is a war against certain people, supported by some governments, who use certain tactics against us. It is NOT a war against an ideology; for we can never fight against an ideology. I mean, who do you attack? Where is the ideology centered? How do you find it? That is just an excuse for an open voucher on the nation for an endless state of war.

Certainly, denying these thugs any safe haven anywhere in the world means they have no place to fight FROM... and THAT is what we need to be doing as a start. Then we can say that we are finally properly defining our task... and not giving FedGov a blank check on our future and our children's future.

We fight the PEOPLE who subscribe to that "ideology" and we grant no quarter until they no longer have either the capability or the will to continue. Simple.

[CWOJackson]

I would dearly love to hang around but tomorrow is another day...in the real world. Have a good evening and remember those immortal words of Captain Ron Paul Jones of the Libertarian Navy..."Give up the ship! Give up the ship!"

[tpaine]

dang...you're late to the pissing contest.
There is hardly a tree that hasn't been watered sixty times.

Perhaps I should just do a general over-spray of the republocratic statists area; -- effectively watering the trees of liberty in the anti-libertarian socialistic forest is best done by hand.