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1 posted on 01/09/2007 9:49:06 AM PST by SmithL
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This should be all out war. The Senate wants to deny these nominees an up or down vote, then shut down the entire legislative process with the veto pen. No good legislation is going to come out of there now anyhow.


2 posted on 01/09/2007 9:51:05 AM PST by MovementConservative (The US will win in Iraq. Thank you all US troops.)
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Hey, it's going to get worse. When the conservatives and moderate wimps stay home next time, they are going to give liberal democrats veto proof majorities and the presidency. Already our soldiers and allies are being abandoned by Congress. taxes will go up. More liberal judges. Partial birth abortions. It's ok, the morons who stayed home only consigned 300 million people to this.


5 posted on 01/09/2007 9:54:09 AM PST by Williams
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I hope the so-called perfect conservatives are happy with their new Democrat Congress.

Republicans weren't perfect, but they were 100% better than what we're stuck with.

Maybe some freepers need a reminder about compromise and not getting 100% of what they want out of any politician.

This clip is from Reagan's autobiography:

When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life .


6 posted on 01/09/2007 9:56:58 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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The Democrats are in charge of destroying any and ALL decent people for the bench.


13 posted on 01/09/2007 10:01:21 AM PST by Suzy Quzy
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These officials said that William Haynes, William Myers and Terrence Boyle had all decided to abandon their quest for confirmation.

I blame McCain/Graham for the fact that Haynes will not be on the bench.

Thanks guys for showing me how worthless our old Senate majority was.

19 posted on 01/09/2007 10:06:20 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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The Republicans never showed any cajones on this topic when it was the majority party in Congress anyway. When the Democrats get enough judges appointed to the SCOTUS, every election that goes against them will be decided in court in their favor. I'm finding it harder and harder to see a way out.


22 posted on 01/09/2007 10:08:23 AM PST by Spok
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I dont want to hear it from those who stayed home this election
the country moved left due to this last election mainly by pissed off conservatives staying home well this is what those of you who stayed home get and it is going to get worse


24 posted on 01/09/2007 10:10:41 AM PST by DM1
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This is what typically happens when negotiating, and you refuse to use your leverage (veto). At some point, your allies decide you aren't going to help, and the other side decides that if you're not going to do anything, it will walk all over you.


35 posted on 01/09/2007 10:16:59 AM PST by ex-NFO
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In a concession to the Senate's new Democratic majority, four of President Bush's appeals court appointees have asked to have their nominations withdrawn.


perhaps they were told to withdraw?


39 posted on 01/09/2007 10:20:23 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006)
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The libs in both parties have done a pretty good job of depopulating the Fourth Circuit.

Looks like this district could wind up more liberal than it was when Billy Jeff left office.


47 posted on 01/09/2007 10:24:25 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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Hard to get too upset, all of these were held up during the republican senate rule as well.


77 posted on 01/09/2007 10:36:13 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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The "new tone" is back I guess. Other than the WOT, I've given up on Bush. He's lost his spine since the 2004 election. He and his White House staff (Rove) have been lost since then and haven't put up a fight on much of anything or they chose to pick the wrong fights with their base( Immigration, the Ports, etc.)


92 posted on 01/09/2007 10:43:37 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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The legacy of Bill Frist and John McCain.
97 posted on 01/09/2007 10:44:46 AM PST by colorado tanker
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Well, reading through the posts in this thread, and many others here on FR, one thing is very clear:

The liberals have the conservatives exactly where they want them, which is where the conservatives thought the liberals were just a couple years ago.

Conservatives are splintered now, attacking each other, blaming each other. For years we waited for the inevitable splintering of the Democrats numerous groups, yet it never materialized. Now, it seems it is the conservatives that are cracking up. Blame the politicians, blame the voters, blame each other.

Reality check: Everyone is too blame. Politicians, voters, non-voters alike. But no matter how you cut it (or blame it) it is always the VOTERS who decide the type of government we have so it MUST be the voters that take the brunt of the blame.

Reading posts that now say "Your side" this and "My side" that is disturbing, when all along I thought we were all on the same side.

Silly me.

114 posted on 01/09/2007 10:55:15 AM PST by technomage (You get what you want one step at a time)
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To: freespirited; areafiftyone; WatchingInAmazement; Jeff Fuller; Unmarked Package

I really would like to hear what the Presidential contenders have to say about the current crop of judicial nominees being blocked.


117 posted on 01/09/2007 10:56:23 AM PST by Kuksool (I learned more about political science on FR than in college)
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Just GREAT. Now we shall face 40 - 50 years more of liberal decisions coming from Appellate Courts.
128 posted on 01/09/2007 10:59:00 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower (Kansan))
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Thank You, John McCain... and the rest of the "Gang Of 14"...
140 posted on 01/09/2007 11:02:31 AM PST by Gritty (McCain, Specter, and the rest are Presidents-for-life of the one-party state of Incumbistan-Mk Steyn)
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Well, things are just Peachy, ain't they? Vote for the Party and not for issues and principles. Well, quess what? In countries which have multiple political parties, membership paying party members expect and get 100% adherence to principles, or else the legislator is kicked out, yes, kicked out of the party. And parties come and go as issues and principles change. Here in Paradise, where principles mean squat, the RAT party was able to run on a platform that was more conservative that what their opposition was doing in Congress! Principles? Don't kid me, kid!
149 posted on 01/09/2007 11:06:28 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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But the woman judge who went to the homosexual based marriage ceremony is allowed to stay on.

she is the one who should have withdrawn.


171 posted on 01/09/2007 11:17:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Frist could have taken care of the problem of filibustering judicial nominiations - but he didn't have the tacos to do it.


175 posted on 01/09/2007 11:18:12 AM PST by Basheva
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