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What Makes a 'Best' Gun?
Officer.com ^ | 1/8/07 | STEVE DENNEY

Posted on 01/09/2007 8:54:02 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

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To: robertpaulsen
Man, if five or six rounds of carefully placed .45 cal. don't do it, it wasn't meant to be. Throw the gun at the guy and run.

For personal defense, I always figure that if you need more than 5-6 rounds, it's time to get somewhere else in a hurry.

21 posted on 01/09/2007 9:38:17 AM PST by dirtboy (Objects in tagline are closer than they appear)
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To: kiriath_jearim
A touch of gun porn for the revolver lovers.


Smith 1917 with commercial grips.


1954 Smith Highway Patrolman with Moose Stags


Smith 1 and 1/2 .32 Centerfire circa 1880.

22 posted on 01/09/2007 9:42:01 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, a revolver is certainly not as sexy, true.

See #22 and bite your tongue.

23 posted on 01/09/2007 9:43:11 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: kiriath_jearim

1. It has to fit your hand (like a Browning Hi-Power and 1911).
2. It must go Bang when you pull the trigger (like a BHP and 1911).
3. It must hit what you aim at (Like a BHP and 1911).
4.Ir must eject and reload a cartrige when fired (like a BHP and 1911).

Wheel guns must work and fit the hands also, like a Dan Wesson. S&W and Ruger.


24 posted on 01/09/2007 9:44:04 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: kiriath_jearim
In the winter when I can wear a coat I carry my S&W Model 915 (9mm, 15+1)and either my S&W Model 638 (.38SP +P) or my Taurus Model 605(.357 Mag) for a backup. The .38 is very light and has a shrouded hammer so you can just carry it in your jacket pocket if you like. I like the reliability of a revolver. I've also had my eye on a Para Ord Warthog in .45ACP for a while now. They just look so darn cool..


25 posted on 01/09/2007 9:44:32 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: kiriath_jearim
One thing about running 200 rounds of self-defense ammo through your prospective carry piece is the cost. OTOH, what's your life worth?

I wouldn't personally use a new firearm as a carry piece at all. They need to earn their way onto my belt. Of the three I use for that purpose at the moment not a one has fewer than 5000 rounds through it. And it does take a deliberate effort to practice with each of them, because there are other firearms more fun to shoot. So little time...

26 posted on 01/09/2007 9:46:44 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: robertpaulsen
Now, a revolver is certainly not as sexy, true. But when you absolutely, positively got to kill everyone in the room, I'd go with a revolver.

Right, long time ago I asked a guy who knew guns "What handgun should I buy for selfdefence", he answered: If you need to shot somebody YOU WANT HIM DEAD. I took his advice and got S&W .38. It is not a .45 but I believe that in need it will kill everyone in the room.

27 posted on 01/09/2007 9:48:14 AM PST by Anticommie
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To: theDentist

Here's my criteria, in order:

1. Reliability: Nothing else matters if the weapon fails to go "bang" when you pull the trigger. Get something that is as reliable as possible.
2. Accuracy - both weapon and user: A .50AE weapon is useless if you can't hit anything with it. Likewise a hit from a .22 can kill if delivered by someone with good shot placement. Get something that you can hit with.
3. Power: "Knockdown power" is a myth, but the bigger the caliber you can accurately hit with, the better.
4. Magazine capacity/reload speed: Enemies do not always come solo like they do in kung fu movies. They also do not always come in convenient six-packs, nor are you a movie hero that can put a bad guy down with just one round and never miss. You may also wish to use suppressive fire. Magazine capacity is an additional weapon - if you have it.


28 posted on 01/09/2007 9:49:30 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: robertpaulsen

The problem with a revolver is that the bad guys don't always come in six packs. Or, for that matter (if you're not a Hollywood hero), do they always go down with just one shot.

Kill everyone in the room? Maybe - if there's only 3-6 guys. # 7 will kill you.


29 posted on 01/09/2007 9:53:46 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tcostell
"Best gun for what?"

Bingo, we have a winner!

The use determines the need.

30 posted on 01/09/2007 9:54:48 AM PST by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Anticommie
"I took his advice and got S&W .38."

A poster recommended the Taurus 85 to me for the wife -- a little less expensive. Nightstand gun. We don't have concealed carry here.


31 posted on 01/09/2007 9:59:00 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: kiriath_jearim

The best gun for what?
Accuracy & marksmanship?
Close quarters?
Night fighting where you can't really aim?
Do you want to kill a Rhino or Squirrel?
Deer Hunting?
Inexpensive plinking?
Home protection?
Do you have to carry the darn thing for long distances (25+ miles).
Does it need to penetrate armor?
Does it need to be automatic?

Not a very good question. The author just wants to state what he likes.


32 posted on 01/09/2007 10:01:51 AM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: kiriath_jearim

Nothing beats a good wheel gun in reliability


33 posted on 01/09/2007 10:07:12 AM PST by Domandred
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To: Spktyr

(in keeping with the subject matter): BullsEye!


34 posted on 01/09/2007 10:20:23 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

1911


35 posted on 01/09/2007 10:46:26 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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36 posted on 01/09/2007 10:48:56 AM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: samadams2000

.40 S&W is what I carry as well.

As for the thread topic, I would say the best "gun" is one that's in your hands when needed.


37 posted on 01/09/2007 10:49:19 AM PST by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: kAcknor
I have a Kel-Tec P32 that I used to carry because it is so light and flat. I started practicing more with it and before 1000 rounds I started having jams and misfires. I put a heavier recoil spring in it with limited success.

Inspecting the gun, I find that the barrel locking area is deformed and mushed up. I sort of fixed it with a file but I no longer feel confident in the gun. Also the ultralight hammer seems not quite up to the job of reliably firing a primer. When I asked my dealer about it he said "Hey, this kind of gun was not meant to fire thousands of rounds".

So I'm back to either a .45, Makarov or .38 snubby. They work and they don't wear out.

38 posted on 01/09/2007 10:50:32 AM PST by Sender ("Great powers should never get involved in the politics of small tribes.")
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To: Domandred
Nothing beats a good wheel gun in reliability

yeah but the longevity of a wheel gun is limited. 5,000rds of hot .357 is really starting to take its toll on my wheel gun.
39 posted on 01/09/2007 10:50:47 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: Jaxter

That Warthog looks cool, but choosing a 1911 over a S&W auto is a big mistake. The design of the extrator and feed ramp of the 1911 have been obsolete since 1935. John Browning fixed these flaws in the Hi-Power. 1911s require far too much modification to be reliable, and will require more work to keep them running over time. I'll put my S&W 4506 up against ANY 1911 in a torture test and the 1911 will always choke first.


40 posted on 01/09/2007 11:00:22 AM PST by FNG
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