Michael Medved - Flushing Out Fear Mongers from Their Fever Swamps (FR Mentioned)

Town Hall ^ | 1-4-2006 | Michael Medved

[dennisw]

I'll believe your BS when you tell me that you/your family run a trade deficit and are deep in hock to creditors.

[Interesting Times]

His concern isn't Corsi, it's the fools who buy into and, more importantly, buy, what he's selling.

Such as? Does Corsi have a book out on this topic? If not, his thoughts would seem to be available pretty much for free.

[Toddsterpatriot]

We export dollars and import goods. How does that put us in hock?

[dennisw]

Are you in hock and getting deeper?

[Toddsterpatriot]

If the Chinese took their dollars and bought GM debt, would you blame them for GM being in debt?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Oh I remember Horowitz's Ramparts -- I also remember Berkeley Barb, East Village Other, and the "underground" press. A much classier and more refined, intellectual group than today's dailycuss crowd of dimwits, most are a disgrace to radicals.

RE: "You're just angry at Medved, now. . . ."

The implication is that it is this hubbub that's got me going. Wrong. I can enjoy Medved's shows except when the discussion is about immigration or economics. (Or entertainment stuff, of course.)

It's been months since I stayed tune for a discussion of either immigration or economics. The other night when I happened upon a rebroadcast I stayed tune because it was about the SPP. I knew he'd be against the critics of SPP and hoped to hear a rational discussion of why. Instead I heard a triple dose of the acrimony that is usually delivered to those who disagree with him on immigration or economics.

It was Michael Savage on steroids.

Mr. Medved will give us reason for "thought and recollection"? Not until he gets control of his "passion."

BTW, I agree about Horowitz vis-a-vis Medved back then. But I have no ambiguity about Mr. Horowitz. I don't always agree with him, however.

[dennisw]

I'll believe you nutty BS when you tell me that you and your family go deep into debt, same as you prescribe for the United States. But - you are an artless dodger so will not answer this question

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'll believe you nutty BS when you tell me that you and your family go deep into debt, same as you prescribe for the United States.

The United States is not going into debt to buy Chinese goods.

But - you are an artless dodger so will not answer this question

If you don't understand the difference between Americans buying stuff and "The United States" buying stuff, then it is pointless to discuss economics with you, because you're clueless.

[AmishDude]

Hits on WND, of course.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

This just in to WoC news service:

It worked! boasts Michael Medved.

my purposefully harsh attack . . . [forces opponent to use] language in a vastly more responsible and rational style . . . [pushes dialogue] back toward reasoned debate and the mainstream

Thank you, Michael Savage! says Michael Medved.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Pastor is a loony leftist, slightly unhinged professor at American University who was an enthusiastic supporter (and informal advisor) to John Kerry’s Presidential juggernaut--- and who bears no connection whatever to the Bush administration, or the dreaded Security and Prosperity Partnership.

This just in to WoC news service

Loony leftist invited to testify by the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Unhinged professor to describe a North American Community Approach to Security

[WilliamofCarmichael]

WoC news service proudly presents a column by Michael Medved, "Civility and Rational Discourse, an appeal to reason."

[I call upon the] scare-mongers [with] their self-promoting paranoia; the self-interested Pied Pipers conspiracist[s from] cuckoo land; [the] lunatic alarmists [and] fringies on the right [consumed by] hysteria; [the] demagogue-in-chief and [his] paranoids and conspiracy connoisseurs [using] demagoguery [and] black-helicopter-style threats; [the] angry, venomous, irresponsible [people with] poisonous obsession; [and] the fringe-figures . . . of dank, turgid conspiracist fever-swamps [to] dramatically deescalated rhetoric . . . [and follow me] back toward reasoned debate and the mainstream . . .[and] vastly more responsible and rational style.

[nopardons]

Okay, I give you points for being the ONLY other person on FR to know about the EVO. Some know about RAMPARTS, far fewer know of the BERKLEY BARB; however, nobody, not a single soul, has EVER known what I was talking about whenever I've posted about the EAST VILLAGE OTHER!

You know whereof you speak, re times past and just because we happen to disagree about Corsi and this latest conspiracy theory, you've earned my respect.

[The_Eaglet]

Thanks for the flag.

A Medved interview of Corsi would be a good start, but Corsi should follow up with Medved's debate terms.

[Alia]

Yep... there's "cogent" arguments, and even some of wildest ones can be interesting.. but then there is flat out inane...

[1rudeboy]

I'll believe your BS when you tell me that you/your family run a trade deficit and are deep in hock to creditors.

Of all types of ad hominems I find this one the most pernicious, because of the implications that, if one is well-off financially, then the status was achieved at the detriment of others or, if one is not well-off financially, then the person making the ad hominem knows better what to do about it than oneself (or the government must do something about it).

For the record, I am up to my eyeballs in debt and hold no assets worth speaking of . . . and I resent your implication that you know what's best for me. Spend your money the way you see fit. Lobby government to spend less of ours. And keep your hands of my wallet.

[1rudeboy]

"off" my wallet

I figure everyone understood me the first time, but let me emphasize:

Keep your hands off my wallet.

[jmc813]

And you've found out Medved's secret. He used to be a hardcore lefty. Where did you find it? How did you discover such damning information? Why, the only place I'd ever seen it before is... ...the book he authored, himself.

We don't get Medved's show here in the New York area, so I really didn't have a chance to get to know about him until this recent dustup.

You've read both Medved and Corsi's pieces. You can honestly tell me that Medved has "behaved himself" better over the last few weeks?

Yes.

Cognitive dissonance is a tragic thing.

You people are great. I think I shall allow you to carry my sedan chair and amuse me with your rantings. Can you wear a hat with bells on?

No thanks. Sounds kinda gay.

[jmc813]

you are so ignorant an ill-informed, you should lock yourself away so that you do not pollute the rest of humanity with your stupidity.

That gem just made the "Comments From Fans" section of my profile page.

[jmc813]

Then I guess Ronald Reagan was a "phony" all along too. Right? I mean, Reagan was a DEM far longer and loved FDR, until his dying day. :-)

If you could point out to me an example oof Reagan working the campaign of the "angriest black radical in Congress", then yes, I would consider him a phony. Democrats in Reagan's day were reasonable. Medved is a borderline Marxist.