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Michael Medved - Flushing Out Fear Mongers from Their Fever Swamps (FR Mentioned)
Town Hall ^ | 1-4-2006 | Michael Medved

Posted on 01/09/2007 8:27:45 AM PST by jmc813

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To: dennisw

Of course we do. We have three times as many consumers as they do. The deficit should be a lot higher, except that most of what we export to them is high-end goods and most of what we import is oil, agricultural products and textiles. Do we need to raise the price of oil in this country so we can protect our nation's garment industry?


141 posted on 01/09/2007 2:34:09 PM PST by presidio9 (Karl Rove has the weather machine set on "defrost")
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To: jmc813

Farah has been pandering to the paranoia crowd for years, playing up any and all angles that appeal to the people most likely to purchase his wares at the big WND flea market he runs. That's the niche he's carved out for himself, and his associates.

It plays well in Peoria.

Say, isn't that Alan Keyes hometown?!?


142 posted on 01/09/2007 2:37:07 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: Paul Ross
First of all, and I am growing weary of pointing this out, we do not have a free trade agreement with China. Secondly, I'm not sure what political machinations have to do with "fairness." Thirdly, I'm not sure what the length of the document has to do with the issue, either.

Is a mortgage application "fair?" I mean, those can get pretty long, right? It's just "Please give me x for y." Heck the banker even speaks the same language.

143 posted on 01/09/2007 2:37:18 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
His bio says he entered Yale at the time of the Goldwater v. LBJ election; he even worked for Congressman Ron Dellums during his early years.

I had a feeling Medved was a phony all along.

144 posted on 01/09/2007 2:41:44 PM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: AmishDude
Corsi is a con-man who would love the platform of Medved's show and Medved is not going to give him free airtime.

He gave these con-men free airtime (from Wikipedia)...

The show has welcomed the dissenting voices of Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, John Shelby Spong,Oliver Stone, Warren Beatty, Ralph Nader, Senator Barbara Boxer, Al Gore, Madeline Albright, George Galloway, and Al Franken, among many others.

I would think if St. Jerome could demonstrate that he can behave himself, then Medved would be happy to give him a segment or an hour.

You've read both Medved and Corsi's pieces. You can honestly tell me that Medved has "behaved himself" better over the last few weeks?

Say what you want about Medved, he doesn't shy from debate.

The guy's outed himself as a complete pu$$y over the last week and his reasoning behind not allowing Corsi on as a guest but allowing him to phone in are completely logically unsound.

And while I have your permission to "say what I want about him", I've done some research and it turns out this Medved is a total phony. Get a load of this gem...

Michael Medved was voted "most radical" in his Los Angeles high school class, then graduated from Yale and attended Yale Law School, where he knew Bill and Hillary Clinton. He was an anti-war protester and backer of Eugene McCarthy, after which he worked for Robert Kennedy's Presidential campaign. He was at the Ambassador Hotel when Kennedy was shot. Medved also took part in George McGovern's 1972 Presidential run, and while living in Berkeley, California worked briefly for the re-election of Congressman Ron Dellums, described as the "angriest black radical in Congress." Medved eventually became a film critic, and for 12 years co-hosted the popular PBS movie review show "Sneak Previews."

I have real issues when a draft dodger makes nasty remarks about someone who admirably served.

145 posted on 01/09/2007 2:52:45 PM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: dennisw
EU was formed the same way.

You are a nutburger with cheese.

146 posted on 01/09/2007 3:05:24 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude; Hugin
If you can point to anything Corsi presents that in any way resembles a mathematical proof, I would like to see it.

I am not talking about Corsi but about statement made by Hugin:

"When you talk about the character of a source being important, it is only important when discussing facts provided by that source. The merits of an opinion stand or fall on their own."

I agree that "merits of an opinion stand or fall on their own." You can have the greatest genius and a saint who expresses an opinion which is wrong, same way you can have wicked and dishonest person who expresses an opinion which is correct.

Opinions should be judged on their merits. On the other hand, when we do not have direct access to a fact, we may have to look at the integrity of the source.

147 posted on 01/09/2007 3:12:18 PM PST by A. Pole (Hugo Chavez: "Huele a azufre, pero Dios está con nosotros")
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To: A. Pole; AmishDude

Contrasting posts 146 and 147 pretty much sums up this entire thing.


148 posted on 01/09/2007 3:14:07 PM PST by jmc813 (Go Jets!)
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To: jmc813
The show has welcomed the dissenting voices of Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, John Shelby Spong,Oliver Stone, Warren Beatty, Ralph Nader, Senator Barbara Boxer, Al Gore, Madeline Albright, George Galloway, and Al Franken, among many others.

All of them are people whom Medved's large radio audience would find interesting and know about before they're interviewed. Corsi is an obscure nobody whose profile would be increased dramatically on Medved's show. His column is much lower-profile and he can deal with more general issues like this.

It's like the Silly Party (Libertarian) candidate demanding a debate with the President of the US. It benefits the latter not at all and the former, regardless of the outcome.

You've read both Medved and Corsi's pieces. You can honestly tell me that Medved has "behaved himself" better over the last few weeks?

Yes.

And you've found out Medved's secret. He used to be a hardcore lefty.

Where did you find it?

How did you discover such damning information?

Why, the only place I'd ever seen it before is...

...the book he authored, himself.

You people are great. I think I shall allow you to carry my sedan chair and amuse me with your rantings. Can you wear a hat with bells on?

149 posted on 01/09/2007 3:14:41 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: AmishDude

Building the EU by stealth
by Hugh McDonald
HOW DECEIT is integral to the development of the EU was admitted frankly by Italian prime minister Guiliano Amato in an interview with Barbara Spinelli of La Stampa on 13 July 2000. Since then Amato became vice-president of the convention that drafted the EU constitution. Here are some things he said:

"The project of the European constitution is daring, but to overcome obstacles in politics it is necessary to conceal them. In Europe one needs to act 'as if' - as if what was wanted was little, in order to obtain much, as if states were to remain sovereign to convince them to concede sovereignty. The Commission in Brussels, for example, should act as if it were a technical instrument, in order to be able to treated as a government. And so on, by disguise and subterfuge...

"The sovereignty that is lost at national level does not pass to any new entity. It is entrusted to entities without a face: Nato, the UN and eventually the EU,which is in the vanguard of a world that is changing, pointing to a future of princes without sovereignty.

"The new entity is faceless and those who are in command can neither be pinned down nor elected... The federalists still think that stripping nation states of their sovereignty transfers it to a higher level. This is their mistake. The truth is that shifting sovereign power will make it evaporate, disappear. In it there will no longer be individual identifiable sovereigns. In their place there will be a multitude of authorities at different levels of aggregation, each of which will be at the head of different interests of human beings: levels that possess ambiguous fields of power which they share with other authorities.

"That is the way Europe was made too: by creating communitarian organisms without giving the organisms presided over by national governments the impression that they were being subjected to a higher power. That is how the Court of Justice was born as a supranational body: it was a sort of unseen atom-bomb, which Schuman and Monnet slipped into the negotiations on the Coal and Steel Community. So also for the Coal and Steel Community itself: a casual mixture of national interests that became communitarian.

"It does not seem opportune to substitute this slow and efficient way which tranquillizes national States at the moment when they are being stripped of their powers with the great institutional jumps so dear to Fischer and the federalists. Fischer says that Monnet is outdated, but he misunderstands Monnet - he was a convinced federalist, but considered it prudent to conceal his federalism under cover of a functional federalism, applied progressively by sectors...

"As to the Commission, for me, the political role of the executive is beyond discussion. I am convinced though that it can exercise it best using the technical powers that the Treaty confers on it as an executive organ. As Delors did in the years of the Commission's period of maximum development between 1986 and 1992. When Delors then wanted to act explicitly as the government of the Union, after 1992, the crisis in Europe was immediate.

"Therefore I prefer to go slowly, to crumble pieces of sovereignty up little by little, avoiding brusque transitions from national to federal power. The proposal to directly elect the president of the Commission seems senseless to me. Here is another Jacobin idea which instead of a plural identity aims at a total "demos". There is already a representative of the communitary "demos", which should be strengthened - the European parliament. European patriotism will be born from the Charter of Rights, which should be the preamble of the European constitution and of the future distribution of responsibilities between organs of the Union. But even the constitution should be built without changes that are too abrupt.

"That is the way I think we will have to behave to build Europe's common policies. Which policies? The locomotive, or heart, of Europe will have to see to he common governance of the economy, as well as to common rules on immigration. It will have to define common rights for legal immigrants: the right to send their children to school, the right to health services, the right of the second generation to be integrated. Then we must create common rules for labour and (police) forces to watch over the common outer boundaries. As you see, the bulding sites are immense."


150 posted on 01/09/2007 3:17:48 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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To: A. Pole
You can have the greatest genius and a saint who expresses an opinion which is wrong, same way you can have wicked and dishonest person who expresses an opinion which is correct.

An opinion, by definition, cannot be "wrong".

151 posted on 01/09/2007 3:19:29 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: jmc813

If you believe that the EU was formed by some sort of secret cabal, you are so ignorant an ill-informed, you should lock yourself away so that you do not pollute the rest of humanity with your stupidity.

There is, quite possibly, no stupider nor more inane statement that the EU was formed this way.

Now if you want an organization that was formed by an elite, away from the opinions of the general populace, I can give you one.

Or can you guess?


152 posted on 01/09/2007 3:22:56 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: dennisw

Didn't read it.

Better things to do.

Summarize.

Again, the oldest trick in the book, debate the needle by dumping a haystack on it. Make your point.


153 posted on 01/09/2007 3:23:55 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Paul Ross

Oh, tell me, how did Michael Medved, syndicated radio talk show host, shy from debate at the Minnesota State Fair, where I suppose he was to spend every waking moment addressing his critics? I want to hear this.

Oh, and if it's personal, my response is: He doesn't have time for every Tom, Dick and Paul that crosses his path.

But no, really, I want to hear this.


154 posted on 01/09/2007 3:28:00 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: Peach
If only he could help here at cuckoo land, Free Republic.

Have you seen my Cocoa Puffs?? Last time I saw them, a moose was browsing near my window.

155 posted on 01/09/2007 3:37:58 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: AmishDude
You are a nutburger with cheese.

LOL

156 posted on 01/09/2007 3:40:10 PM PST by presidio9 (Karl Rove has the weather machine set on "defrost")
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To: AmishDude
And you've found out Medved's secret. He used to be a hardcore lefty.

Incidently, Ronald Reagan used to be a hardcore lefty.

157 posted on 01/09/2007 3:41:19 PM PST by presidio9 (Karl Rove has the weather machine set on "defrost")
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To: presidio9

Not really. I understand your point, but Reagan used to be a more-or-less conventional Democrat in the FDR mold. Maybe "hardcore lefty" but Medved used to be a genuine radical.


158 posted on 01/09/2007 3:46:03 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: tertiary01
Link? I've seen those rules sourced to H. Michael Sweeney.
159 posted on 01/09/2007 3:52:36 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (What up my Tigger?)
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To: jmc813
RE: I had a feeling Medved was a phony all along.

He's never denied his early years -- however for me, it's just that men like David Horowitz who were dedicated to the overthrow of the U.S. government switched and denounced, exposed the true nature of red-diaper babies of the New Left, as well as, the true nature of the remnants of the CP/USA.

In no way am I saying Medved was among Communists, I am saying he was their dupe. He was just one of the many young, arrogant jerks who were praised by the MSM as the brightest young ever produced by America. To this day he believes it, I bet.

He and other liberals fled the traditional, patriotic Democrat Party without a fight leaving the Party to become the New Left's Rat Party.

Unlike Horowitz he has never atoned and exposed the idiocy of liberalism of those war/civil right days; instead he simply brought his feeeeeeeeeeeelings and contumely to our side, unleashing the latter upon paleo-conservatives. IMO.

160 posted on 01/09/2007 4:01:21 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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