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BOISE STATE -- 2007 FOOTBALL BOWL SUBDIVISION NATIONAL CHAMPIONS !!
9 January 2007 | self

Posted on 01/09/2007 5:46:20 AM PST by PetroniDE

Time to make everyone in SEC country mad at me.

Boise St. 2007 Football Bowl Subdivision National Champions.

Here is some logic for you.

Florida lost to Auburn
Auburn lost to Arkansas
Arkansas lost to USC
USC lost to Oregon State
Oregon State lost to Boise State

Who did Boise State lose to this season? NOBODY !!

Save the argument about strength of schedule and "didn't play nobody". How many SEC teams play non-conference road games? Think any SEC teams would play Boise State (or any other non-BCS team) home and home?


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To: PetroniDE
Without football/men's college basketball, colleges and universities would be in even worse shape financially than they are now.

Nonsense. Most universities (mine included) lose money on intercollegiate athletics. Some lose huge amounts of money. Those few athletics programs that do make a profit end up spending the money themselves; they contribute nothing to the educational or research missions of the universities.

241 posted on 01/09/2007 9:22:34 AM PST by Logophile
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To: Logophile
The 1-AA/II/III schools lose money on athletics. NAIA schools (like my alma mater) lose money on athletics. Some 1-A schools lose money/struggle on athletics.

The 1-A state schools make money (and lots of it) on college football/men's basketball. There are isolated examples of women's basketball/men's ice hockey that generate revenue. It is these schools that control how the football process works and it is because of the money flow -- they dominate it and want to keep it.

242 posted on 01/09/2007 9:33:12 AM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: Arkinsaw

You missed my point. Even if a team from the top conference goes undefeated, that is not good enough.

It is not about a close loss and whether SEC champ could defeat 11-0 -- it is about going perfect under the most difficult scenario possible and still not good enough because of bias/error in pre-season polls.


243 posted on 01/09/2007 9:36:19 AM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: ark_girl
Why? It's fun. . . . NFL or NBA or not, all of this is great prep for the professional world. I'm saying this from firsthand experience in a support organization. . . .

Well, I certainly do not want to stop people from having fun. And the other benefits you mention might well be valid reasons to support intercollegiate sports.

But those benefits could be achieved without sponsoring expensive semi-pro teams of "student-athletes" who are athletes first and students hardly at all. That is essentially what Division I football and basketball have become.

244 posted on 01/09/2007 9:39:57 AM PST by Logophile
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To: IndyTiger

Here in Phoenix, Fiesta Bowl officials have been saying they are open to change in 2010. It will happen, in 2-3 years.


245 posted on 01/09/2007 9:45:03 AM PST by chiller (Old Media is not yet dead. Turn them off and they will die. For the sake of sanity.)
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To: PetroniDE
The 1-A state schools make money (and lots of it) on college football/men's basketball. There are isolated examples of women's basketball/men's ice hockey that generate revenue. It is these schools that control how the football process works and it is because of the money flow -- they dominate it and want to keep it.

Some 1-A state schools make money on footbal and basketball—or at least they claim to. In many cases, however, their profits are illusory, based on very creative accounting of their expenses.

Even if we were to accept at face value the assertion that a few Division I teams turn a profit, that still leaves the great majority that do not. Most Division I universities would be better off without the financial drag of their athletics programs.

246 posted on 01/09/2007 9:59:42 AM PST by Logophile
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To: quantim

Thank s I need that. Have a great day!


247 posted on 01/09/2007 10:09:09 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: indcons
Look I do not know you and you do not know me. I am not a sore loser ,never was and never will be , you need to get a life and learn how to read. I said congratulations to the winners today. I do not cry in my beer . But then again you would never now what a gracious loser is because when you lose you cry for weeks. It has only been one day. If a person who comes in here and states facts and congratulates the winner is a loser, you better get a life. If all you got is football , you need a life big time.
248 posted on 01/09/2007 10:14:42 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: UpAllNight
I could care less , did not even watch the game. My team was not in it. Man , you gator fans got to stop eating stuff you hunt from the swamp. I could care less when my team is not in it. Did not have a dog in the hunt, and last night I watched movies on my dvd.I said congratulations to the winners , but you people do not win , you rub it in. Now you are have the same target all other big teams have bulls eyes on your backs. But if you think you are so great in Fl and since you gators want to insult today instead of being gracious winners , why don't you learn how to vote remember 2000. How are all you chads today. Rub it in and you will get a war. Cool it you are out of your league. You don't want me to start about how many times Fl has been in the news this year now do you, and not for basketball and football.
249 posted on 01/09/2007 10:21:44 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: betsyross1776

--why don't you learn how to vote remember 2000. --

Nothing wrong with the voting in FL. FL went Bush 2000 and 2004.


250 posted on 01/09/2007 10:27:55 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: betsyross1776

-- If a person who comes in here and states facts and congratulates the winner is a loser, you better get a life.--

I think most of your posts are about how BSU should be #1 and FL is just as much a loser as the rest.


251 posted on 01/09/2007 10:30:28 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: PetroniDE
We have a guy in the office from Southern Miss and he is always stating that if USM ever got a shot at Ole Miss/MSU (even road shots only), they would crush them.

They would have this year. Ole Miss and Miss. State were awful.

252 posted on 01/09/2007 10:43:21 AM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: PetroniDE

The SEC is the best of the best, no doubt. Boise State would not be able to hang in the SEC week after week. As much as it pains me to say it, I am a diehard Georgia fan, the Gators played great. Now next year, when the Dawgs beat the Gators, we will also be beating the National Champions!


253 posted on 01/09/2007 10:45:04 AM PST by panthermom
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To: PetroniDE
SEC don't play non-conference road games for one reason -- M-O-N-E-Y !!!

Naaahhh...

I think the reason is that other teams want to play at Florida as an excuse to then go to Disney World!

-PJ

254 posted on 01/09/2007 10:53:59 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: PetroniDE

Maybe we'll play ya there when they make the field green instead of that hideous blue. It hurts your eyes to watch their games.


255 posted on 01/09/2007 10:55:51 AM PST by panthermom
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To: showme_the_Glory
"Did you notice they used PAC10 officials for the BCS championship game. The Buckeyes got screwed just like the Sooners. :-)"

Yeah. I saw them motion to the official scorers to place 41 points on the board just before the end of the game.

How exactly do PAC 10 officials help an SEC team? Florida killed Ohio State.
256 posted on 01/09/2007 11:09:30 AM PST by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: PetroniDE

I would rather vote for Boise State as well. Florida almost lost to U. Of South Carolina.


257 posted on 01/09/2007 11:15:03 AM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: JohnLongIsland
so in theory boise state would have gone undefeated in the sec this year.

I've seen the "A beat B who beat C, therefore A will beat C" theory used to prove that Pone Kingpetch, the 112-pound flyweight could have beaten the heavyweight champion of the time, Muhammad Ali. Of course, that was done to show how ridiculous this "logic" is.

You might want to ask Boise State about how well it went last time they faced a team from the SEC.

258 posted on 01/09/2007 11:15:20 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: CommerceComet

The logic tree makes more as much sense as having sportswriters and coaches vote on it. They don't have time (nobody does) to watch enough college football to make fair sense out of it.

Playoff is the only solution.


259 posted on 01/09/2007 11:29:48 AM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: showme_the_Glory

--Did you notice they used PAC10 officials for the BCS championship game. The Buckeyes got screwed just like the Sooners. :-)--

You mean like how the officials 'missed' the OSU hold on the kickoff return on the first play of the game?


260 posted on 01/09/2007 11:32:35 AM PST by UpAllNight
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