Full fat milk makes you thinner - Swedish study

The Local ^ | January 8

[Bushwacker777]

I think this is probably true. Anyone with babies should have been told by their pediatrician that vitamine intake is decreased if the baby does not get enough fat. The same is probably true for adults. In the case of this then calcium intake increases -- and calcium is a vital component to the body and metabolism.

I have also read that people who get a lot of sun exposure get less breast and colon cancer -- and calcium is the factor as the sun produces vitamine D for your body and this vitamine is essential in calcium metabolism.

Interesting.

[Man50D]

I have also read that people who get a lot of sun exposure get less breast and colon cancer

They also increase the chance of getting skin cancer.

[Past Your Eyes]

I thought all milk had cream on top of it until I was 18.

[djf]

Not necessarily true.

http://www.newstarget.com/007632.html

In fact your chances of getting a far more fatal internal cancer from lack of Vitamin D are far greater than your chances of getting skin cancer from moderate sunlight exposure.

[Jim Noble]

Fat is an appetite suppressant and does not cause hyperinsulinism.

Obesity CAN be caused by eating too much fat, but in the absence of hyperinsulinism that is hard to achieve.

All "low-fat" substitutes, OTOH, promote fat cell growth by inducing high insulin levels.

Obviously, there are humans who are more and less susceptible to insulin excess in terms of body composition.

But the most destructive dietary myth is, "you are what you eat". That's literally true in the graduate biochemistry sense, but the common sense version is false.

Fat does not (usually) make you fat.

[CheyennePress]

True. It's when you combine fat and carbohyrdrates that you really run into trouble, however. That's going straight to the ole tub, no doubt about that.

[scramaseaxe2002]

[Snip]

Consider this: "Heart disease is proportional to the amount of homogenized milk consumed in a country. Finland has the highest consumption of milk [of which 90 percent is homogenized] and the highest heart disease rate followed by the United States.

"The lowest consumption and the lowest heart disease rates are found in France, Japan and Sweden [of which only 2 percent of the milk is homogenized].5"
– The Book Homogenized by Nicholas Samsidis, MS

--Swedes drink non-homogenized milk mostly.--

[alnick]

It's when you combine fat and carbohyrdrates that you really run into trouble, however.

Actually, if you combine good fats with good carbs, there should be no problem. Whole grains, olive oil, a little bit of dairy, lots of fruits and veggies. I lost a lot of weight using that formula. Didn't count the first calorie or fat gram or carb gram. Just had a goal of eating healthy. The carbs that are problematic are the simple carbs.

[Lil'freeper]

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[HEY4QDEMS]

They also increase the chance of getting skin cancer.

Only if they don't properly cover up their body, UV is not needed for the body to produce vitamin D, only sunlight.

[Jaysun]

Consider this: "Heart disease is proportional to the amount of homogenized milk consumed in a country. Finland has the highest consumption of milk [of which 90 percent is homogenized] and the highest heart disease rate followed by the United States.

"The lowest consumption and the lowest heart disease rates are found in France, Japan and Sweden [of which only 2 percent of the milk is homogenized].5"
– The Book Homogenized by Nicholas Samsidis, MS

--Swedes drink non-homogenized milk mostly.--

Another interesting note is that the French have higher cholesterol levels than we do. And yet they have less heart disease. I've been saying for a long time that high cholesterol is good, not bad. The "nurses study" seems to confirm that.

[Freedom4US]

Skim-milk is just... wrong. Ironically, a lot of people drink it "for the calcium" - when w/out the fat, there is no benefit with respect to the calcium. What's really sad, is people foist their bizarre, faddish "health food" diets on children, where it is least needed and most harmful. Growing kids need cholesterol and vitamins, and Milk is one of the perfect foods for this. I wouldn't trust any diet book made after about 1950 as far as that goes.

[DainBramage]

I thought my name was get-wood till I was 18.

[djf]

Not true.

The form of light that makes Vitamin D (incidentally, it makes VitD from our old archnemesis Cholesterol) is the UVB light.

UVB is the shortest form of ultraviolet light. The normal rays that tan you are the UVA light, which can make it through even if the sun is farther down towards the horizon.

But UVB ONLY makes it through the atmosphere and down to you if the sun is close to the highest point in the sky. Unless you live at the equator, there are only a few hours during the day that the UVB gets through, and thats only during the summer months at medium to low latitudes.

So if you live in the continental US, there are around six months of the year when you get ZERO vitamin D from sunlight.

[Vaquero]

I heard years ago, that if carbs were the real fat makers, and if you do the Askins type diets.... Whole milk has less carbs in the same volume, because the extra fat of whole milk displaces it.

[HEY4QDEMS]

Interesting, I've read on sunscreen pamphlets that the product does not deprive you of the benefits of vitamin D that the body produces from the sun.

I'm assuming from your post that sunscreen blocks UVA but not UVB, is that correct.

[djf]

Possibly. But I've also read that the statistician types are starting to at least link the increases in some forms of cancer with people using sunscreens.

More studies are needed, I guess.

[bikerman]

Mine was S.O.B.

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[Past Your Eyes]

You too, eh?