KOSOVO SOLUTION International Law, Not Independence

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/joksimovich/005.shtml ^

[kronos77]

[kronos77]

Map of the Greater Albania that Muslim Albanians in charge of Kosovo seek to establish by acquiring territory from 4 of their neighboring countries: Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro and Greece. --- Religious freedom through the barrel of the gun: Bishop Artemije protected by 4 UN body guards in the Muslim-dominated Kosovo.

[RightWhale]

There is no such thing as international law. There are treaties. The UN is an NGO.

[stylin19a]

In March 2007 it will be eight years since the Kosovo war and the US-led NATO intervention in gross violation of a host of international laws including the UN Charter

Shouldn't that read: including the NATO charter ?

[canuck_conservative]

"... intervention in gross violation of a host of international laws ..."

Wasn't the way Serbia used the Yugoslav air force to indiscriminately bomb Croatian cities (to cite just one example) in the early 1990's - merely because Crotia wanted to be independent - a "gross violation of international laws" too?

[kronos77]

Nope.
Civil war.

[canuck_conservative]

Yeah, Croatia asked to be independent, and Serbia responding with city bombing .... that's not civil war, that's a massacre.

And speaking of massacres, let's remember the reason NATO intervened - because the SERBS were massacring Albanains and Kosovars. Have you forgotten about all the mass graves that NATO troops found?

[A. Pole]

Have you forgotten about all the mass graves that NATO troops found?

Do you know what is definition of mass grave? More than two bodies. Where are these hundreds of thousands that supposedly perished?

The cruel fact that the main and largest atrocity that took place in 1990s Yugoslavia was NATO led massacre of Krajina Serbs. EVERYBODY can see it for himself as the Krajina (pron. Kry-ee-nah) is the ONLY land EMPTIED of its inhabitants!

[kronos77]

Nope.
Federal Army fought a war. Serbia was just a member of federation.

[dennisw]

The West should have been overjoyed to see the Serbs repelling the Albanian Muslims and driving many out of Kosovo. Instead we helped the Muslims (not that one damn Muslim on this planet is grateful for that)we bombed the Serbs. And a Kosovo that was once at least 50% Christian is 90% Muslim. Serbs are being forced out and terrorized. Lebanon is similar. It used to be a civilized Christian dominated country. Now it's merely one Muslim shithole among many

[attiladhun2]

What you are stating is pure d Clintonista/Euroweenie bullcr@p. The Clinton spin machine, otherwise known as CNN and the MSM, kept touting "100,000 innocent and thoughly angelic Albanians massacred by bloodthirsty, evil Serbians sporting fangs and horns." This figure kept being revised down until it was less than 3,000. Incidentally, many of the dead were victims of the NATO air campaign, many more were victims of KLA atrocities. This information did not seem to be important enough to make it into CNN's reporting.

No side was lilly white during these Balkan wars. The Western Europe and the USA paid back a traditional ally (Serbia), one that saved the lives of hundreds of allied airmen during WWII, by siding with some of the most scurrilous people in Europe. A policy decision was made by the Clinton administration and certain Western European powers (notably, France) to back Muslim elements in order to curry favor with the Arab world. Why? Obviously to keep the cheap oil flowing.

[DTA]

Shouldn't that read: including the NATO charter ?

should read: including UN AND NATO chapters and Helsinki and Paris accords.

[FormerLib]

Have you forgotten about all the mass graves that NATO troops found?

You mean the ones that contain a fraction of the numbers that NATO claimed, with some dating back to WW2?

At least we found those 100,000 mass graves that they told us about...but we found them in Iraq, of course.

[canuck_conservative]

Re: your Post #11 ....

You really believe that? Okaaayyyyy .... you guys really need to get out of your paranoid fantasyworld more often, and acquaint yourselves with the actual facts.

And tell us again why this was necessary:



"The International War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague has issued indictments against Serb and Montenegrin soldiers over the attacks on the beautiful Croatian port city of Dubrovnik.

Those indicted face 16 different kinds of war crimes in connection with the artillery attacks on the ancient city and its surroundings.

Their identities have not been revealed by the tribunal, but they were members of the then Yugoslav Federal Army and Navy, the Bosnian Serb Army and Montenegrin paramilitary units.

The punishing three-month bombardment of Dubrovnik in 1991 was one of the events which turned international opinion against the Serbs."

[Kolokotronis]

"Wasn't the way Serbia used the Yugoslav air force to indiscriminately bomb Croatian cities (to cite just one example) in the early 1990's - merely because Crotia wanted to be independent - a "gross violation of international laws" too?"

What's the matter; afraid Alberta will highjack the Canadian airforce to carpet bomb Quebec City when the vote finally goes for independence and the FLQ takes over?

[joan]

You see tire smoke there. Dubrovnik is a stone city. I don't spot any crumbling masonry. Where is damage to the walls or building.

That shot was through long range photo picking up some tire burning near the shore.

No one has ever shown any damage or rebuilding to Dubrovnik's famous walls.

The city was lightly damaged - and only because Croat forces started shooting at the Yugoslav navy. The Navy was under control of an ethnic Slovene, Admiral Stane Brovet.

[kronos77]

That smoke was from the fuel tanks of two pleasure boats burning in the Old Harbor -- outside, of course, the walls. Dubrovnik's Old City never burned. Bullet holes along Stradun were from gunfire inside the walls, at ground level at close range in a fight on the street between rival Croatian factions. Scaffolding was set up in front of facades in anticipation of the shooting to come. Video tapes of gunfire along the ancient walls, run backward, show clearly that the puffs of gun smoke are from outgoing, not incoming fire. "Western" reporters in Dubrovnik since they cannot read Serbo-Croatian, do not mention the graffiti calling for the lynching of Serbs: Srbe na vrbe (literally "[hang] the Serbs on the willow trees"). My videotapes of Dubrovnik from March 25, 1992, have been aired on Chicago Cable Access TV, Channel 19. Want to see them?

http://www.serb.org/serbia/letter-guardian-uk-john-peter-maher.php

[DTA]

>>>>>The punishing three-month bombardment of Dubrovnik in 1991 was one of the events which turned international opinion against the Serbs."<<<<<

Youy are right about this. The propaganda campaign to smear Serbs was successful. "Bombardment" of Dubrovnik was an elaborate hoax and key building block of that propaganda campaign. The fact that there was no damage to the Old city besides shrapnel damage to the tiles is a proof of this. One of the very few buildings destroyed within the Old city was Serbian Orthodox Church.

Speaking of your pic, it is evident that it is truck tires that are burning. Artillery shelling leaves white smoke.

This article is about Kosovo, and you have nothing to contribure to discussion except your demonstrated bigotry.

However, you have demonstrated how the scumbags operated: the series of orchestrated lies during Balkan civil wars was used to justify illegal aggression on Serbia in 1999 and occcupation of Kosovo. Once Kosovo was occupied, series of orchestrated lies from 1991-95 was used to allow unprecedented crimes to happen under NATO approval: mass expulsion of Serbs, Roma, Jews, Croats, Goranis (as substitute for fictitious "ethnic cleansing" Serbs allegedly commited), mass murder of Serbs and Albanians who were tossed in mass graves(as substitute for Serbian "mass graves"), burning of the tens of thousand of Serb and Roma houses (as a substitute for alleged Serbian crimes against civil population) and last but not least destruction of 150 of Serbian Christian shrines (90% of the entire number).

The media lies were the pretext to commit the crimes of Serb and Roma population of Kosovo.

Your attempt to recycle Dubrovnik lie in this context makes you complicit in this crime.

Fine Canuck conservative, indeed. /sarcasm off

[kronos77]

http://www.antic.org/Weblog/2006_08_30_archive.html COMMENTS: Regarding falsely orchestrating events and doctoring photos. Remember Dubrovnik where a media fraud reported that the Serbs destroyed the Pearl of the Adriatic, the city of Dubrovnik? Read below the similarity between the alleged burning of Dubrovnik and the cover of U.S. News and World Report which shows a Hezbollah fighter overlooking a fire in Beirut. The caption reads, "Wreckage of an Israeli jet billowing smoke in Beirut." Upon closer look, it is not a war scene. No, those are automobile tires burning in a garbage dump. Peter Maher, Professor Emeritus of Linguistics, visited Dubrovnik, Croatia, to see for himself the truth about the war in the Balkans. It should be noted that Dr. Maher, a Roman Catholic, not a Serbian Orthodox source, video taped the entire city, building by building and his footage was shown on Access TV Channel 19 in Chicago. Dr. Maher wrote, "A few months earlier, the press was filled with stories that the Pearl of the Adriatic had been reduced to rubble. The stories were fakes." Professor Maher goes on to explain just how it happened: "The dramatic 'Dubrovnik burning' pictures were shot with long lenses. . . .But the smoke was from the fuel tanks of two pleasure boats burning in the Old Harbor ... Dubrovnik's Old City never burned and was never even targeted by the federal forces. It was not navy guns that did the damage, but plastic and incendiary devices planted on the spot by Croatian forces.....I then asked the cameraman to take us to the building that was reportedly gutted by fire. Reports erroneously identified the destroyed building as the Serbian Orthodox church and library, but the fact is that, facing the Serbian Orthodox church, a burned out hulk of a building stood, burnt out and roofless, a four-level building. It was the house belonging to Ivo Grbić an artist. Adjacent structures were unscathed. No naval guns could have done that. Grbić was summoned in 2003 to testify in the Hague trial against Slobodan Milosevic, but the official story was that he could not come on account of poor health. His paints, brushes, easels etc. were reported on a Croatian website to be housed in the Franciscan and Dominican monasteries. It is unknown to me if these were newly acquired or if the artist's materials were removed before the fire. On a wall facing the Grbić house we filmed a sign, ICONS in English, and in Serbian Cyrillic letters HKOHE. "Dubrovnik - "the Pearl of the Adriatic" -was not destroyed, but barely scratched. We hope you will comply all the corroborating evidence of your findings from other honest witnesses. The PR orchestration has sqamped the facts until now." And of course, let us not forget the image of the wailing woman in this video - how many did we see, month after month, of Bosnian or Kosovo women and children wailing on the front pages of all our newspapers? I do not denigrate their suffering because many of them did suffer needlessly, but intentionally by the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic. But U.S. newspapers never showed photos of Serbian women and children suffering from NATO bombs, or their slaughtering at the hands of Agim Ceku, the Muslim war lord who today is walking a free man. If only we had had this kind of email/bloging during the war against the Serbian people, the lies would have been exposed immediately and perhaps, just perhaps, things might have been different - one would hope. 'Nuf said. Stella

[infidel_pride]

You really are gormless , you goon . Now , off to bed and read before posting next time .