U.S.- Mexico Pact Revealed: Billions to Non-Citizens.

NewsMax.Com ^ | Jan.5 '06 | Dave Eberhart

[Last Laugh]

I'll wager a pretty penny that you haven't actually read the totalization agreement and neither (clearly) has the author of this idiotic polemic.

LOL! There is reading and then there is UNDERSTANDING implications.

Polemic? LOL! Back at ya!

[Iwo Jima]

If,, as it appears, the Democrats are hell bent for leather to initiate impeachment proceedings against President Bush, just who is it that will come to his defense? You know, the way that Clinton had his minions defending his every move on the TV, in the press, and before Congress?

Class? Anyone? Anyone?

It appears to me that in this respect Bush is on his own. Unlike Bush, Clinton never alienated his base.

[pandoraou812]

I am sorry to say I feel the same and I never thought I would say it. It seems like he just doesn't hear the voice of the people. No border wall, this new BS with SS. I don't understand it. Its like the American people's rights don't matter as much as these illegal Mexicans or the BS with the Muslims. Nothing would surprise me anymore...I think.....I hope... ~~Pandora~~

[Cobra64]

You can't reason with a Bushbot any more than you can reason with a liberal. They live on another planet, are devoid of common sense, reason, and logic. If they got hit by a bus, they wouldn't know why.

[eleni121]

A perfect opportunity to do away with anachronistic obsolete govt. imposed larceny!

[ECM]

You don't get it, do you? This is part and parcel of an overall amnesty plan--they *will* get this when Bush and co. force through their amnesty plan (if you'd been paying attention you'd have noticed that it hasn't gone into effect yet...wonder why that is, eh?)

[BW2221]

"Not one illegal alien will receive social security from the United States government, certainly not because of this totalization agreement." If you believe this, you're even more delusional than I first thought.

There have been numerous stories recently about how illegal aliens not only will receive Social Security after amnesty, but even will be able to claim any payments maid by using fraudulent Social Security numbers.

I just love Open Borders Lobbyists like you; you get cheap labor and our children clean up the mess.

[Cobra64]

If there weren't employer payroll withholding, it would be easy.

[rottndog]

Not one illegal alien will receive social security from the United States government, certainly not because of this totalization agreement. Find a new strawman.

Really?

Social Security fraud is a felony. Identity theft (which occurs when an illegal alien uses a stolen social security number) is also a felony. Both are FEDERAL FELONIES. The feds know of millions of stolen SS#s being used in workplaces around the country and are doing virtually nothing to stop it. Why should they be believed when they say they won't pay illegals benefits?

[BW2221]

"Unlike Bush, Clinton never alienated his base."

On the issue of immigration and border security, I'd believe Clinton (either one) before I'd believe Bush.

[Founding Father]

The actual agreement:

http://www.tscl.org/NewContent/Totalization_Agreement.pdf

[ImAmericanFirst]

It's time to take back our government OR learn to speak Spanish. I've already accomplished the latter, hopefully it will only need to be used when on vacation and not at my vocation.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735774/posts

[canadianally]

They WILL try to take guns out of the hands of the citizenry. That is a guarantee.

[capt. norm]

George W. Bush is not the guy I thought he was.

Same feelings here. This is like back in 1976 when I bought a new Chevy Monza.....OUCH!

At least I had alternatives to buying the Chevy, but I don't consider Algore and Kerry to be acceptable alternatives for the presidency.

[rottndog]

Bluntly put, without 9-11 Bush would have been a one termer.

[Last Laugh]

If there weren't employer payroll withholding, it would be easy.

I don't know about you, but we owe every year. Making something of yourself has penalties. The thing is, "one must not make something of themselves" you'll dang sure pay for it

BUT, payroll withholding? Just CHANGE the withholding. Under how many do you support, just add about 30 undocumented aliens or something,

One day, enough of us will be brave enough to do that

[PhiKapMom]

Not me! I think it is a travesty and should never have been agreed to. If American citizens have to work 40 quarters (10 years) to get benefits, then so should everyone else from other countries with green cards. People here illegally should NEVER get any benefits because if you are not legal, then your social security card and number would be illegal. You don't reward people for breaking the law.