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Sweden: New centre will dispel Viking myths (Traders rather than Raiders)
www.thelocal.se ^ | 01/03/2007 | James Savage

Posted on 01/05/2007 11:12:24 AM PST by WesternCulture

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From a general point of view, the article above is well written and I would be the first to admit that the people behind the website of The Local is doing a great job.

On the other hand, I feel some important and interesting aspects of these news and the truth about the Vikings have been left out and I would therefore like to make the following remarks:

- THE CHANGING IMAGE OF THE VIKINGS THROUGHOUT HISTORY

Around 1500 years ago, when The Roman Empire was in fast decline and the Arabs were advancing their position, Viking culture existed in an embryonal form. It was noted, not at least by the Romans, that the Vikings were extremely good shipbuilders - like an omen of what to come.

During the Viking era itself, the 8th to the 11th century roughly, Vikings on the rampage indeed raided, raped, looted and were, in consequence hereof, feared by many while they ALSO built up a gigantic trade network and promoted the spread of technology and culture. Many experts in the field are convinced they, among other things, also discovered America.

For a long time the Christian world viewed the Vikings as heathens and barbarians, failing to recognize their enormous - positive - contribution to cultural exchange, trade and technology advancement.

During the dark age of what I would label as "xenophobic" European nationalism (in contrast to true patriotism like the American one that is NOT basicallly racist), around 1830-1945, Vikings were regarded as model warriors and patriots in many nations. Especially in Scandinavia, Great Britain and Germany, Vikings were almost worshipped as Arian semi-gods. In fact, Germany and Great Britain more or less competed in picturing themselves respectively as the closest heirs to the Vikings, beside the Scandinavians themselves, naturally.

Today, many experts are wishing to "correct" traditional and popularized notions of the Vikings. In our own age, lots of educated people around the globe are aware that the Vikings were progressive minded traders and explorers, even though they, at the same time, indeed were magnificent warriors.

The future image of the Vikings?

Personally, I hope that this, seemingly ever changing image one day will develop into an awareness of the Viking culture as being a highly important factor in the great achivements of the Western Civilization, as I have reached the conclusion that this is actually the case, which brings me on to the second thing I wish to draw attention to.

THE CONTRIBUTION OF "VIKING" SCANDINAVIA TO WORLD HISTORY AND THE PROGRESS OF MANKIND

I'd like to put forth some questions regarding the Vikings that, admittedly, are daring and I'm sure most scholars, politicians and journalists of today never would wish to deal with. However, this is Free Republic and not a politically correct TVprogram produced by BBC.

- Is there any connection between Viking culture (not to be confused with Viking genes) and Scandinavia being the richest part of the world today (measured in nominal GDP per capita)?

- Is there any connection between the fact that almost EVERY great Western power since the Roman one - save Spain perhaps - was built on populations with a large degree of Viking influence? Look at Northern France, Britain, the US and Russia/Soviet. Why did Poland, any Balkan nation or any country south of the US NOT rise to a position like these nations in world history?

Is there a cental dynamic element in Viking culture that promotes and encourages fearful progressiveness?

It would be difficult to prove. But it sure can be argued for.

Anyone who has been brought up in Scandinavia or have close ties to this part of the world knows that Scandinavians have an intense love affair with groundbreaking technology, competetion and exploration - things you do not associate with, for instance, the traditional culture of China or India, even if they deserve admiration and respect from several other angles.

There are unbalanced myths regarding all nations and most of us like to view our own countries as glorious, honored and praiseworthy. Nothing is wrong with that per se, but often it can lead us wrong.

Still, I think several facts like the above ones can't be easily explained away as a expression of excessive Scandinavian chauvinism.

Why, for instance, has my own country, Sweden, produced more inventions and world leading capitalist corporations per capita than any other nation?

Why has the region of Stockholm - Helsinki - Tampere/Tammerfors developed more revolutionary information technology than ANY other part of the world of that size with the possible exception of some part of California? Just think of Ericsson and Nokia.

I don't think it is about genes. But it IS about culture - Which, among other things, would explain why many immigrants to Scandinavia have managed to adopt our values and have been very productive citizens and law abiding ones as well. I know there are several exceptions and these individuals there is no reason to make excuses for. Send them back. The positive thing is that culture can be TAUGHT while genes can not.

The Vikings developed a special mental preparedness consisting in continously keeping track of what went on in the world around them ("know thy enemy") and a strive to continously improve their TECHNOLOGY as a CONCEPT OF SURVIVAL. Other cultures did these things too, but were not centred around these factors to the same extent. The Roman Empire, Ancient Egypt or the Chinese were not that focused on exploration and pioneering technology.

Today, the world is more technology aware than ever before and that suits us just fine!

WHAT COULD BE GAINED FROM IMPROVED INSIGHTS OF VIKING CULTURE?

The Scandinavians could of course learn something important about themselves through realizing what special aspects of their cultural and historical background they should be particularly careful to nurture, cherish and preserve.

But there is something about knowledge of Viking traditions that goes beyond Scandinavia and countries with strong ties to Scandinavia like the UK and the US. That certain something is an awareness of how trade, capitalism, science and investment in new technology can create a better future for all of mankind!!

1 posted on 01/05/2007 11:12:29 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

Wonder what the vikings would think of recent muslim immigrants to their country raping their wives and daughters...wonder what they would do?


2 posted on 01/05/2007 11:14:08 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: WesternCulture

Is this why the Minnesota Viking suck this year?


3 posted on 01/05/2007 11:14:47 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

They shot their wad last year.


4 posted on 01/05/2007 11:17:40 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: All
WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET?

5 posted on 01/05/2007 11:17:47 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: WesternCulture

Just one small correction:

I wrote "encourages fearful progressiveness". Well, only crackpot enviromentalists view progressiveness as "fearful". Naturally, I meant "fearless".


6 posted on 01/05/2007 11:20:07 AM PST by WesternCulture
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To: WesternCulture

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow
The hammer of the gods
Will drive our ships to new lands
To fight the horde, singing and crying
Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar,
Our only goal will be the western shore.

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow
How soft your fields so green,
With whispered tales of gore,
Of how we calmed the tides of war
We are your overlords

On we sweep with threshing oar,
Our only goal will be the western shore

So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins
For peace and trust can win the day
Despite of all your losing


7 posted on 01/05/2007 11:20:28 AM PST by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: 2banana

The argument between the Vikings being raiders or traders is an idiotic one.

Like most peoples down through history, the Vikings raided when they could and traded when they had to.

Raiding is much more profitable than trading when your opponents are weak or disorganized, as most of Europe was at the time. Our own society is one of the few in history which cheerfully trades with weaker ones despite having the power to just take what we want. This has its ultimate expression in the massive transfers of wealth to those dedicated to our destruction for oil that we found and developed.


8 posted on 01/05/2007 11:25:27 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: 2banana

"Wonder what the vikings would think of recent muslim immigrants to their country raping their wives and daughters...wonder what they would do?"

In my country, muslims are overrepresented in the area of OUTDOOR rapes. These people ought to be sent back even if they HAVE obtained Swedish citizenship.

Furthermore, I think we should NOT avvoid discussing "muslim" rapes, but at the same time we ought to realize that portraying muslims in general as rapists leads nowhere. But, by all means, go ahead if you wish.


9 posted on 01/05/2007 11:27:40 AM PST by WesternCulture
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Is this why the Minnesota Viking suck this every year?

Fixed that for you.

10 posted on 01/05/2007 11:27:50 AM PST by akorahil (Thank You and God bless all Veterans. Truly, the real heroes.)
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To: akorahil

They be Viqueens this year.


11 posted on 01/05/2007 11:30:57 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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Is this why the Minnesota Viking suck this year?

Well, the Raiders sucked too.

12 posted on 01/05/2007 11:32:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: akorahil

Thank you for the correction. I now realize that Vikings were multicultural and progressive and pacifist! Not only were they traders, they were the world's first FAIR traders.


13 posted on 01/05/2007 11:33:15 AM PST by canadianally
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To: WesternCulture

So now the pussified Swedes are trying to pussify their Viking ancestors. Everybody knows the really cool Vikings came from Norway and Denmark.


14 posted on 01/05/2007 11:37:26 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: WesternCulture

15 posted on 01/05/2007 11:39:02 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
No, this is why:
16 posted on 01/05/2007 11:39:28 AM PST by JZelle
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To: ozzymandus

Icelanders were the real Vikings.


17 posted on 01/05/2007 11:40:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: WesternCulture
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18 posted on 01/05/2007 11:46:18 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: WesternCulture

What's with all this Swedish Viking hype? Not a word was said about Norway the REAL Viking people. Why was Stockholm chosen as the center for Viking studies?

The Swedes, as usual, in their ongoing friendly flap with fellow Scandahoovians, are putting forth the image to the world that if you want to know about the Vikings, don't look to the Norwegians, look to Sweden and Stockholm.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 11:47:41 AM PST by sasportas
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To: dfwgator

They came from Norway.


20 posted on 01/05/2007 11:47:53 AM PST by ozzymandus
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