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The Tax Line In The Sand (Romney signs No Tax Pledge)
Captain's Quarters ^ | 1/5/07 | Captain Ed

Posted on 01/05/2007 6:24:25 AM PST by teddyballgame

It looks like the Republicans have found their theme for the next two years of Democratic control of Congress. A slew of press releases from the GOP yesterday focused on the spectre of tax-raising by Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and their controlling caucuses. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney became the first top-level Republican primary candidate to sign the Tax Pledge, joining most of the Republican caucuses in Congress:

Seeking to broaden his appeal as a presidential candidate beyond those Republicans attracted by his reputation as a social conservative, Governor Romney is making a play for economic conservatives by focusing on taxes.

Moments before Mr. Romney, whose term as governor ended this week, entered the offices of his presidential exploratory committee for the first time as a private citizen, he warned that the new Democratic Congress would succumb to raising taxes.

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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Haley Barbour is the only one of those three who has even a remote chance for the nomination. Tancredo is a Loon and Purdue not well known enough.


21 posted on 01/05/2007 7:34:25 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: RexBeach

"Gov. Romney is a very nice man. I think he is a gentleman." Those qualities alone should assure your vote should he be running against the Witch whose beliefs you DO know.


22 posted on 01/05/2007 7:36:11 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: evad

I wonder if the left will take advantage of Mitt's infamous slip-of-the-tongue, whe he called the tunnel a "tar baby."

It seems he's so far escaped the fate of his father George W. Romney who effectively torpedoed his own run for the oval office by saying he was brainwashed into supporting the Vietnam War.

How do you think his wacky religious beliefs will play out to middle America?

As Jacob Weisberg of Slate.com put it in a recent blog. “I wouldn't vote for someone who truly believed in the founding whoppers of Mormonism. The LDS church holds that Joseph Smith, directed by the angel Moroni, unearthed a book of golden plates buried in a hillside in Western New York in 1827. The plates were inscribed in "reformed" Egyptian hieroglyphics—a nonexistent version of the ancient language that had yet to be decoded,” he wrote. “Smith was able to dictate his "translation" of the Book of Mormon first by looking through diamond-encrusted decoder glasses and then by burying his face in a hat with a brown rock at the bottom of it. He was an obvious con man. Romney has every right to believe in con men, but I want to know if he does, and if so, I don't want him running the country.”

PS you can't call me a religious bigot. I base my opinion of his religious beliefs upon experience. I am an unbelieving member of the LDS church. THEY call me a lying apostate....you be the judge.


23 posted on 01/05/2007 7:37:35 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: colorcountry
He's got RomneyCare, MormonGate an other types of alleged and perceived negatives.

Personally, I don't think any of that will amount to much when push comes to shove, especially when you have to consider the alternatives, or lack thereof.

The biggest complaint I see about Mitt is that some people, especially on this forum, don't think he is genuine. MY biggest complaint was his performance involving the Scouts as director of the Olympics. I don't know how much influence he really had there, maybe PD knows more, but to me the Scouts are "untouchable"...my 3rd rail.

24 posted on 01/05/2007 8:09:23 AM PST by evad
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To: evad
MY biggest complaint was his performance involving the Scouts as director of the Olympics.

Okay, call me uninformed, but what about the scouts and the Olympics? I live in Utah, and have never heard anything positive or negative either way.

25 posted on 01/05/2007 8:11:58 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: Pukin Dog
you wrote: "There are paid anti-Romney FReepers on this forum"

You sound like a moonbat. (Anytime I post on the HuffPo I always get accused of being a paid troll.) Any proof of this allegation? Not that I doubt you, it's just that I'd be more than happy to make a little cash for something I've been doing for free. (The Moonbats over there haven't been able to provide me a source either.)

Here's my beef with Romney: His health-care bill in Massachusetts. He might not have raised taxes to fund it, but he certainly didn't veto it when the Democratic Legislature raised them.

Since the House is Constitutionally responsible for levying taxes, he could theoretically sit on his veto pen in the White House, while a Democrat Congress raised taxes through the roof. That way, he could claim he stuck to his pledge, but we'd still see higher taxes.

Pretty Slick, huh?

(Now who do I talk to about getting paid for that one?)
26 posted on 01/05/2007 8:46:45 AM PST by Tim Slagle (Tim Slagle's Europa: Right Wing Comedy on iTunes and Amazon.com visit http://www.timslagle.com)
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To: Tim Slagle
Moonbat? LOL! Yeah, thats me baby!
27 posted on 01/05/2007 8:49:43 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: colorcountry
You can google "Olympics Romney bans Boy Scouts" if you'd like and form your own opinion. Basically, amongst other things, it says...

"The 2002 Olympics -- run by Mitt Romney -- was the only Olympics that restricted the Boy Scouts from participating. According to news reports, this was apparently because of pressure from homosexual activists. (But also, according to reports, homosexual groups participated fairly prominently.) Romney would not respond to reporters' questions about that action."

I repeat, I don't know how much influence he really had and I don't know that he ever made a personal statement regarding the situation but to me personally, it's a serious charge that needs to be addressed.

28 posted on 01/05/2007 9:04:11 AM PST by evad
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To: colorcountry
"I live in Utah, and have never heard anything positive or negative either way."

My wife and I visit Park City once a year...I absolutely love it. Favorite sport is snowmobiling and there's plenty of it.

29 posted on 01/05/2007 9:08:01 AM PST by evad
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To: evad

Okay, yeah I love it too.....so what about the scouts, what happened?


30 posted on 01/05/2007 9:14:28 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: colorcountry

post 28 is all I know...which is very litte.


31 posted on 01/05/2007 9:16:18 AM PST by evad
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To: evad

Sorry, I read your scout information after you utah information. Thanks....interesting.


32 posted on 01/05/2007 9:17:41 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: KantianBurke

"How's about GOVT SPENDING?? If you indulge in that, its only a matter of time before taxes have to be raised."

Spending under Romney's tenure has increased at half the rate of federal increases. He actually decreased spending by 1.6 billion in his first year. Whatever else one says about Romney, he knows how to keep spending down and has done so in every venture he has ever pursued.


33 posted on 01/05/2007 9:20:14 AM PST by Obilisk18
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To: teddyballgame
Check this link out...

Tacking right, Romney runs into trouble

From the link:

It just gets worse and worse for Mitt Romney: It's now emerged that Romney actually voted for a liberal Democrat in 1992. Today's Washington Post piece on the criticism Romney's been taking from conservatives also contains the news that Romney, who was an independent in the early 1990s, voted for Tsongas in the 1992 Dem primary. That means that Romney was not only not conservative early in his career but wasn't even a moderate Republican. The man he voted for was a liberal Democrat who of course vocally supported all the things Romney now claims he's against — gay rights and abortion rights, to name just two.

And from this link...

Talking points memo

....check out the remark about Romeny's preference for moderates.

34 posted on 01/05/2007 9:23:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: colorcountry

"How do you think his wacky religious beliefs will play out to middle America?

As Jacob Weisberg of Slate.com put it in a recent blog. “I wouldn't vote for someone who truly believed in the founding whoppers of Mormonism. The LDS church holds that Joseph Smith, directed by the angel Moroni, unearthed a book of golden plates buried in a hillside in Western New York in 1827. The plates were inscribed in "reformed" Egyptian hieroglyphics—a nonexistent version of the ancient language that had yet to be decoded,” he wrote. “Smith was able to dictate his "translation" of the Book of Mormon first by looking through diamond-encrusted decoder glasses and then by burying his face in a hat with a brown rock at the bottom of it. He was an obvious con man. Romney has every right to believe in con men, but I want to know if he does, and if so, I don't want him running the country.”

PS you can't call me a religious bigot. I base my opinion of his religious beliefs upon experience. I am an unbelieving member of the LDS church. THEY call me a lying apostate....you be the judge."

Jacob Weisberg hardly represents middle america. He's a flaming, lefty, secularist, wacko who wants all religion obliterated. Did you actuall read the article? The part where he actually made the inane argument that while he found traditional Christianity ridiculous as well, it was more acceptable because it'd been around longer? Or the part where he considered "Christians" acceptable because they didn't actually believe the truths of the Bible, but rather viewed it as metaphor? Could have fooled me. We see quite clearly what type of religion men like Weisberg favor. And what adopting their absurd arguments as our own inevitably leads to: a society filled with secularists and Christians who believe the Bible has some "nice ideas".


35 posted on 01/05/2007 9:26:23 AM PST by Obilisk18
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To: Pukin Dog
You're avoiding the question.

Where do I go to get paid?

And if you don't know, why did you write that?

Is it because you feel, that people who get paid to post, are less genuine than someone like yourself, who posts only out of passion?

Don't we on the Right believe the Supreme Court was correct when they decided that money spent on speech is equivalent to speech and protected by the First Ammendmant? In that case, a valid remark should have the same weight regardless of who wrote it, or why it was written.

I believe, that most of us don't see a moral disconnect with somebody receiving compensation for their effort, even if those efforts are for the good of society. We believe that Doctors, Journalists, Firemen and Soldiers are all entitled to salaries. It is the Leftists that think Non-Profit ventures are morally superior to For-Profit ones; and often complain about Doctors and Scientists who only care about the bottom line.

You might think you are solidly on the Right, but equating morality with unpaid labor is a moonbat remark.
36 posted on 01/05/2007 9:29:50 AM PST by Tim Slagle (Tim Slagle's Europa: Right Wing Comedy on iTunes and Amazon.com visit http://www.timslagle.com)
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To: evad
He's got RomneyCare, MormonGate

What the hell is Mormangate?

37 posted on 01/05/2007 9:53:41 AM PST by Bommer (If people evolved from apes, why are there still apes?)
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To: Obilisk18

I agree. I never said Jacob Weisberg was middle America. But many middle Americans will read his words.

I think the leftist MSM will absolutely use Mormonism, and anything else they may find out about Romney, to the utmost of their ability to defeat him, should he make it past the primary.


38 posted on 01/05/2007 10:23:15 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: mewzilla

OK, as Independent in 1992 you could chose Bush or Buchanan (with that one pretty much gauranteed to be Bush) or vote against Bill Clinton in the Democrat primary.

Had I been one year older, this would have been a no brainer to me. Although by the time Ohio rolled around, Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown was the protest vote against Slick Willie 42.


39 posted on 01/05/2007 10:24:27 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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To: Tim Slagle
(Now who do I talk to about getting paid for that one?)

Someone, anyone, please pay me

Not you, John McCain.

40 posted on 01/05/2007 10:26:06 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism hasn't been tried and found wanting, it has been found wanting to be tried.)
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