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Bush claims authority to open Americans' mail
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS, via The Press Democrat ^ | January 4, 2007 | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 01/04/2007 12:31:54 PM PST by Tamar1973

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Be careful about giving a "friendly" president a lot of power, the next one will take more. I don't think mail should be searched w/out a warrant unless it's literally a ticking bomb.
1 posted on 01/04/2007 12:31:58 PM PST by Tamar1973
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This is going a bit too far. The Patriot Act was enough -- if the President needs more, we should start by securing our own COUNTRY FIRST...then worrying about the details of what powers the government needs. This is all upside down.


2 posted on 01/04/2007 12:33:59 PM PST by EagleUSA
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I like the way it's written to make it sound like the president plans to hang out in post offices opening mail.


3 posted on 01/04/2007 12:34:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Tamar1973

While he's at it, can he dump the junk mail into the recyclables?


4 posted on 01/04/2007 12:35:17 PM PST by Little Ray
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If there is enough evidence in place to suggest that a certain piece of mail is linked to terrorism, then it SHOULD be extremely easy to get a warrant. This makes no sense.


5 posted on 01/04/2007 12:36:17 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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Many nameless critics have also indicated that James Gordon Meek is an alcoholic and a wife beater. A senior editor at the New York Daily News said, "I swear he makes up quotes just to make Republicans look bad."


6 posted on 01/04/2007 12:36:34 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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"You have to be concerned," agreed a career senior U.S. official who reviewed the legal underpinnings of Bush's claim. "It takes Executive Branch authority beyond anything we've ever known."

A top Senate Intelligence Committee aide promised, "It's something we're going to look into."

These quotes were made up by the reporter as fluff and are used to make it appear he worked harder on the story than he actually did.

7 posted on 01/04/2007 12:36:39 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Little Ray

He can read anything I get...just hands off the coupons for pizza.


8 posted on 01/04/2007 12:36:58 PM PST by GOP_Proud (How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame." ...Coulter)
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To: Tamar1973

So you still think this is a "friendly" president?


9 posted on 01/04/2007 12:37:15 PM PST by stevio (God, Guns, and Guts made America. A politician against any of the 3 doesn't get my vote. (NRA))
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I like the way it's written to make it sound like the president plans to hang out in post offices opening mail

I don't know where he finds the time, since I thought he spent most of his day in a basement listening in on our 70 billion daily phone calls.

10 posted on 01/04/2007 12:37:24 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Tamar1973

This story is more a crock of shiite than the NY Times breathless eavesdropping stories.


11 posted on 01/04/2007 12:37:48 PM PST by pissant
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This story is more a crock of shiite than the NY Times breathless eavesdropping stories.

But it sure reels in some fish, doesn't it?!

12 posted on 01/04/2007 12:38:44 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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"Be careful about giving a "friendly" president a lot of power, the next one will take more. I don't think mail should be searched w/out a warrant unless it's literally a ticking bomb."

Name a war in which mail was not opened without a warrant. (None exists, you’re falling for NYT propaganda)

13 posted on 01/04/2007 12:39:13 PM PST by elfman2 (An army of amateurs doing the media's job.)
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If you've ever gotten a letter-bomb delivered you'd be of an entirely different opinion.

Interestingly enough USPS has "procedures in place" (which can mean devices or rules or practices) that serve to make your typical letter-bomb blow up where it can't hurt anyone.

Not sure that's a search, but do those suckers open up when they go off!

Letters with anthrax are another item we don't really need warrants for.

14 posted on 01/04/2007 12:39:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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OK, this is a good start, and I don't think I like this, but I need more info on this besides one story with unnamed sources. I remember the brouhaha about the warrantless eavesdropping.

I'm goin to go and look around and see if I can find more info.


15 posted on 01/04/2007 12:40:14 PM PST by eyespysomething
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I like the way it's written to make it sound like the president plans to hang out in post offices opening mail.

You just painted a perfect picture for the gullible.

16 posted on 01/04/2007 12:40:15 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Tamar1973
Bush asserted this authority when he signed a postal overhaul bill into law Dec. 20. He then issued a "signing statement" that declared his right to open people's mail under emergency conditions.

That claim is contrary to existing law and contradicted the bill he had just signed, experts said.

I don't think mail should be searched w/out a warrant unless it's literally a ticking bomb.

He already has certain (very) limited authority that is recognized but not specifically described. Any chance he is - as you specify in one example - just declining to rescind this ability?

Bush's move came during the winter congressional recess and a year after his secret domestic electronic eavesdropping program was first revealed.

Well, given that they got this wrong, what credibility for their description should be given?

17 posted on 01/04/2007 12:40:36 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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I'm not sure why it's necessary for Bush to advertise these policies in advance. If he feels it's necessary and legal, then do it. Until then, don't talk about it.


18 posted on 01/04/2007 12:40:42 PM PST by Brilliant
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Ya gotta figure. He probably finished dumping arsenic in wells sometime late in 05 and there are only so many seniors to be pushed down stairs. Yeah I suppose he has the time now.


19 posted on 01/04/2007 12:41:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: pissant

Is there no depth to which they(MSM) will not sink?


20 posted on 01/04/2007 12:41:03 PM PST by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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