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Student mistakenly held on drug charge settles with Phila.
The Philadelphia inquirer ^ | Jan. 04, 2007 | John Shiffman

Posted on 01/04/2007 4:58:32 AM PST by grjr21

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To: CGTRWK
"A condom squeeze-it novelty in plain sight in your luggage only says drug smuggler if you've watched too many bad movies."

It also says drug smuggler to an airport screener, especially if it's in a suitcase, filled with a white powder (instead of sand or water), and there's three of them.

Unless you're saying she had three hands?

81 posted on 01/04/2007 8:38:13 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: TNdandelion
"She was giving them to friends."

Assuming she keeps one, she only has two friends? Uh-huh.

You're hearing hoofbeats and you're trying to convince me that they could be zebras. I prefer the simpler explanation.

82 posted on 01/04/2007 8:44:03 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It also says drug smuggler to an airport screener, especially if it's in a suitcase, filled with a white powder (instead of sand or water), and there's three of them.

This woman was not trained or employed as an airport drug screener. It is not any more reasonable to expect her to know how drugs are smuggled than it is to expect the airport drug screeners to know the fine points of her comparative literature.

83 posted on 01/04/2007 8:45:43 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: Oberon
The city had a choice? Three condoms filled with a substance testing positive for cocaine?

Yeah. Forcing.

84 posted on 01/04/2007 8:46:52 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: CGTRWK
"It is not any more reasonable to expect her to know how drugs are smuggled ..."

Would you do what she did?

85 posted on 01/04/2007 8:49:44 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
It also says drug smuggler to an airport screener, especially if it's in a suitcase, filled with a white powder (instead of sand or water), and there's three of them.

How many drug smugglers put drugs into condoms and then put them in a suitcase? Drug smugglers put drugs into condoms and then swallow them. They don't put them in their luggage. Sheesh.

86 posted on 01/04/2007 8:56:28 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Yeah. Forcing.

The circumstance that "forced" the city to prosecute the woman in question was the city's use of an evidence lab that couldn't tell the difference between DEA Schedule I controlled substances and wheat flour. Of course, given the reputation the city of Philadelphia has for quality policing, such performance standards should probably be considered par for the course.

You should go to work for them, rp, and quit posting here. The average IQ of FreeRepublic and the city of Philadelphia would both increase.

87 posted on 01/04/2007 9:03:34 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: tacticalogic
"How many drug smugglers put drugs into condoms and then put them in a suitcase?"

The careless ones. The stupid ones. The arrogant ones. The forgetful ones. The ones who plant them in other people' luggage. The ones who think they're being clever.

88 posted on 01/04/2007 9:05:30 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen

Can you cite a sigle case of this ever happening - someone putting drugs into condoms and then attempting to smuggle the condoms in thier, or someone else's luggage?


89 posted on 01/04/2007 9:13:14 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Oberon
"The circumstance that "forced" the city to prosecute the woman in question was the city's use of an evidence lab that couldn't tell the difference between DEA Schedule I controlled substances and wheat flour."

I don't disagree. But what came before that was the "circumstance" of a dingbat attempting to "smuggle" three condoms filled with a white powder through an airport screener.

"You should go to work for them"

And you should go through airport security with a suitcase containing an innocent length of pipe, a battery, and some wires wrapped around them (to merely hold them together). You can explain they were for some friends.

While I'm in Phildelphia (raising their IQ), I'll visit you in prison -- you can tell me about how unfair life is.

90 posted on 01/04/2007 9:17:56 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
Would you do what she did?

First they came for the ignorant condom carriers, I remained silent; I was not....

91 posted on 01/04/2007 9:18:35 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: grjr21

She should have gotten more than the $180K. Another brilliant waste of resources fighting the failed and unwinnable war on some drugs.


92 posted on 01/04/2007 9:20:57 AM PST by mysterio
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To: tacticalogic
Plenty of instances where drug smugglers used unknowing innocent civilians to carry their drugs in their luggage. Hell, they've even made movies out of it. (That's why they ask, "Did you pack your own luggage"?)

In condoms? Not that I'm aware of, but I don't see why not. Maybe they have.

93 posted on 01/04/2007 9:24:49 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: CGTRWK
"First they came for the ignorant condom carriers, I remained silent; I was not...."

The Ignorant Condom Carriers would be a good name for a rock band.

94 posted on 01/04/2007 9:28:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
But what came before that was the "circumstance" of a dingbat attempting to "smuggle" three condoms filled with a white powder through an airport screener.

Why are you assigning motive? She wasn't attempting to smuggle anything---she was attempting to travel with three condoms filled with flour in her suitcase. The evidence proves precisely that.

The real story, as you agree, is that the Philadelphia police cannot tell cocaine from flour, and cannot staff their department with personnel able to tell the difference without the use of technology. This whole issue could've been cleared up by one person on scene with enough experience to tell coke from flour on sight/smell/taste alone. At $180,000, the city got off lightly.

95 posted on 01/04/2007 9:29:28 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
While I'm in Phildelphia (raising their IQ), I'll visit you in prison -- you can tell me about how unfair life is.

If you're in Philly and I'm in prison, we'll each have our own problems to deal with. =]

96 posted on 01/04/2007 9:31:37 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
This whole issue could've been cleared up by one person on scene with enough experience to tell coke from flour on sight/smell/taste alone.

If you're a cop, you don't taste stuff you suspect could be drugs, and probably don't smell it either, no matter what they show on TV.

You just don't.

97 posted on 01/04/2007 9:33:17 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Is it possible for an experienced narcotics officer to tell coke from flour by sight?


98 posted on 01/04/2007 9:35:16 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: robertpaulsen
In condoms? Not that I'm aware of, but I don't see why not. Maybe they have.

If you don't see why "in a condom" vs in a toothpaste tube, footpower container, or anything else you would normally expect to see in luggage, and isn't transparent enough to see what's in it, then no amount of explaination is going to help.

99 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:50 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I have no idea, really.


100 posted on 01/04/2007 9:46:53 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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