Posted on 01/03/2007 1:21:09 PM PST by Tim Long
The Issue:
Persecuted because they were doing their jobs. Thats precisely what has happened to two U.S. Border agents who were convicted and sentenced to 11 and 12 year prison terms for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler who had crossed our border illegally and physically assaulted one of the agents.
This outrageous injustice took place near El Paso, Texasa hotbed of illegal activity, where drug smugglers, and violent gang members illegally crossing from Mexico are often encountered. On February 17, 2005, U.S. Border Ignacio Ramos (a former nominee for border patrol agent of the Year), and Jose Compean attempted to apprehend a fleeing illegal alien at our border.
Today, both are facing 20 year prison terms, and even more outrageous, this same illegal alien is now suing the U.S. for $5 million claiming his civil rights were violated. Click here for the Lou Dobbs report.
Both agents must surrender to federal authorities on January 17, to begin their terms. However, Grassfire.org is calling on the President to pardon them, and is rallying at least 200,000 citizens to sign our petition. Because of the timeliness of this issue, we will electronically deliver all signed petitions, and personal comments about this case directly to the White House.
On December 21, 2007, Grassfire presented nearly 160,000 petitions demanding the full pardon of border agents Ramos and Compean to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-46th), an outspoken supporter of the agents, during a national press conference. Additionally, Grassfire President Steve Elliott appeared on Fox News' Fox and Friends to make a plea for the agents (click here to see Steve's interview). Grassfire is urging ALL members of our team to contact their lawmakers, and the White House demanding these agents be pardoned. To contact the White House, 202-456-1111.
Total signers: 193,500
Your Sponsor: Mr. Tim Long The Petition States: To: President George W. Bush,
As a citizen of the United States I am outraged to learn that two U.S. Border Agents have been convicted of lengthy prison terms for doing their jobs-- pursuing illegal aliens who cross our border, and Im calling on you to officially pardon them for their actions.
I am even more outraged to learn that this illegal alien (who was attempting to smuggle about 800 pounds of marijuana into our country), was tracked down by a Department of Homeland Security Investigator and granted immunity for his testimony against these two agents!
This is a terrible injustice, and I urge you to use your considerable authority and power to pardon these two agents and right this obvious wrong!
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I provided you with a link in post #53. Neither you or anybody else has been able to refute the allegations made in this testimony.
Please tell us you're kidding?
Special Agent Horiuchi was never charged or convicted of anything. His actions had the blessing of the AG and entire federal power structure.
Sheeesh!
"Friends of the Border Patrol" and your defense are weak and biased.
Neither you or anybody else has been able to refute the allegations made in this testimony.
That's not testimony. The testimony was in court, with which the jury unanimously convicted your co-workers.
He should have been...just like these two felons. Get it?
You, by the way, need to loosen your tin foil beanie.
Hmmmm ... why can't you discuss an issue without the insults?
Of course I have the advantage on you. I know what I'm talking about. The county I worked for was a port of entry for Ollie North's program. But you can bring yourself up to speed by reading "Compromised... by Reed and Cummings"
But if you don't, I will understand. We all have our 'level of comfort' and it can be unpleasant to deal with facts.
So don't worry, I'll understand.
Reed's book was an excellent piece of fiction.
Because your conspiracy theory and logic is insulting.
Have you read it?
Yes, I did read it. Any resemblence between Reed's book and fact is purely coincidental, and I actually have some direct knowledge of what he was talking about. I was in the machine-tool business when Reed was, and he was well known (it was and still is a small community where everyone knows--or has at least heard--of everyone else) for bragging that he was working for the CIA. I figured that those who really worked for the CIA in a covert capacity (as Reed claimed to) generally didn't broadcast it at every damn bar they ever visited.
It was during my jail duty period that I met the Nicaraguans who were in the business so to speak. They were not dirt bags, but Patriots in their nation.
I agree Reed was a wanna be James Bond, but how do you explain Buddy Young doing the investigation on the insurance fraud case?
While I'm not an attorney, I have been told by those who are, that it is very rare for a Federal judge to enter a "Not Guilty" verdict in dismissing a case.
Maybe someday I do a vanity or magazine article* which will help historians understand that era. Bottom line while "Project Jade, Operation Screworm Centaur Rose and such ... were brilliant, they left a lot of collateral damage, such as putting Slickmesiter into POTUS.
*I did save the documentation which would be essential.
I had some dealings with the Contras and didn't know a damn thing about it until I was in a Chamber of Commerce meeting with a Nicaraguan trade delegation and I was reunited with a former business partner who had been funding the Contras--he was a minor player in the post-Ortega government, but I knew him as an Honduran businessman trying to build a factory in Tegucigalpas and buying machine tools.
I find it fascinating that you're repeating the usual Democrat slander about Contras dealing in drugs, though.
Not trying to be too much of a wise guy, but I know what I know.
And actually, some of the Democrats were just as deep into the Programs and even knew more about than most Republican politicians did.
Have you read Dark Alliance by Gary Webb?
I actually met face-to-face with him right before he bugged out to Mexico, when I was consulting for a very pi$$ed-off venture capitalist who'd just lost thirty megabucks because Reed's end of the deal had fallen apart. He spent the entire meeting trying (and failing) to explain away why he'd managed to lose yet ANOTHER business deal that should've been in the bag. At least he didn't try to use the "I was working for the CIA" crap--even he was probably realizing that it was getting old.
Have you read Dark Alliance by Gary Webb?
Yes. That was an artfully-written piece of libel. He was very careful to make the most libelous accusations against people who were dead (and thus couldn't sue), people who may have disappeared without intent of coming back (assuming that they actually existed in the first place), or against public figures (who, being public figures, would have had to prove actual malice on Webb's part--go ahead and try to prove another human being's state of mind, lotsa luck). He also worked extremely hard to keep Danny Ortega and his buddies out of the narrative--I guess it would've damaged his "Reagan bad, Communism good" rhetoric.
And every cop in the biz had to laugh about the wind blown open hanger door. Good old Buddy Young was just doing his duty to Slick et. al., pity he's so stupid.
The allegations made by Andy Ramirez before Congress of jury misconduct and prosecutorial misconduct have yet to be disproven. Of course, this is all irrelevent to you because of your undying support for illegal aliens and drug smugglers.
Any criminal case the U.S. had was blown out of the water as soon as the two Border Patrol agents tampered with the crime scene and the evidence. You should know that, even if you are not a lawyer.
Exactly, regardless of how the Border Agent Union Reps on this thread spin the info.
Johnny Sutton allowed Aldrete to smuggle an additional load of drugs into the US after being given immunity for the previous load. Maybe it's just me, but I think there's something a little unethical about an incompetent US Attorney giving illegal aliens carte blanche to commit whatever crimes they wish.
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