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Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, John Adams and James Madison: Young America’s Fight with Islamism
Hawai`i Free Press | 01/03/07 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 01/03/2007 11:01:38 AM PST by AndrewWalden

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1 posted on 01/03/2007 11:01:44 AM PST by AndrewWalden
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To: AndrewWalden
I just saw via the DrudgeReport that the muslim congressman is planning on swearing his oath of office on Jefferson's copy of the Koran. Interesting. Link
2 posted on 01/03/2007 11:07:14 AM PST by Horkster (MoHAMmed...pork be upon him.)
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To: AndrewWalden

bump for later


3 posted on 01/03/2007 11:09:39 AM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: AndrewWalden

Clearly -- the ONLY permanent solution is to totally destroy militant Islam and all who follow the militant directions in the Koran.

For a peaceful and tolerant Islam to evolve or survive, one must assume there are "peace loving, moderate Muslims"....
A belief with little empirical evidence to support.

Semper Fi


4 posted on 01/03/2007 11:13:05 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: AndrewWalden

Chilling. History not shared is lost. How many Americans know this? We are doomed to suffer and repeat History again and again, unless we destroy the enemy.


5 posted on 01/03/2007 11:15:36 AM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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To: river rat
"peace loving, moderate Muslims"....

Try looking at Turkey or Bangladesh. Not all Muslims are radicals, although Osama bin Laden would like us all to believe that.

6 posted on 01/03/2007 11:15:59 AM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: AndrewWalden
The "History Channel" had a great documentary on last night, Saddam and the Third Reich.
7 posted on 01/03/2007 11:19:15 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: You Dirty Rats

Turks are neither peace-loving, nor moderate. Many of them used to be moderate decades ago, but so were Iranians. Today Turkey is drifting more and more into Islamism and anti-Americanism. And they were never peace-loving or tolerant. Ask the Kurds, Greek, Assyrians and Armenians.


8 posted on 01/03/2007 11:21:16 AM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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9 posted on 01/03/2007 11:21:26 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: AndrewWalden

Very good read!


10 posted on 01/03/2007 11:23:15 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: SolidWood
This is extremely important history lesson for those who urge us to withdraw inside our borders and avoid "foreign entanglements".

As long as you have anything of value, there are evil people in the world who will take it by force. And if you have nothing of value they will take your land.
11 posted on 01/03/2007 11:26:22 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: You Dirty Rats

I think Turkey has a Christian masacre or two in their not-to-distant past and the Islamists have been running amock in Bangladesh.


12 posted on 01/03/2007 11:28:41 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: TexasCajun
Iraqi fascist President Ali Gailani with Adolf Hitler: ”image”

”image”

13 posted on 01/03/2007 11:30:33 AM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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To: AndrewWalden
In Jefferson's War: America's First War on Terror 1801-1805 the point is made that Jefferson understood a bit of the danger faced by the Tripolitan and associated Muslim pirates. His (Jefferson's) use of extreme force in crushing the enemy was a lesson that we would do well to repeat.
14 posted on 01/03/2007 11:36:00 AM PST by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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To: AndrewWalden

I always think of the irony of when I found this out. Because of 9/11 we started our homeschool schedule a week later. We were to learn about pirates. The only pirate documentary I could find in the library was on the Barbary pirates.


15 posted on 01/03/2007 11:36:38 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: BigBobber

Muslims will also chop off your head in front of your daughters and then rape them. Their "Prophet" did so - read the Koran for the details.


16 posted on 01/03/2007 11:37:26 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: AndrewWalden

Payment in Iron

Few people know that the impetus in creating the United States Navy and the Marines was to combat Islamic pirates.

After all, the United States could have gotten by with a coastal patrol force if it were not necessary to send men half way around the World to protect our interests. This war we are in is nothing new, not even for a young country like ours.

17 posted on 01/03/2007 11:39:00 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Many Americans are invested in a US failure in Iraq, and will work diligently to bring it about.)
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To: AndrewWalden; jd777; All

Ironically, I just posted the following on another thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1742163/posts?page=24#24

To: jd777

A man who thought of himself as a "true" Christian, in that he believed Jesus brought the best moral code to humanity, a man who had to deal with the Barbary pirates and who had to compromise in the signing of a treaty with dubious wording so non-Muslims wouldn't have to pay Islamic tax? Jefferson was no fan of Islam, believe me. He studied law, including the Qur'an as a system of laws, but I don't think he gave it a lot of consideration for the very simple reason that he didn't have to deal with it on home soil. He didn't keep the Qur'an by his bedside and memorize it. It was just extraneous study material to him. He was more concerned with arguments between Christian denominations - irritated by them, really, because he thought the disagreements were ruining Christ's real message. Although there were those of his time who did know enough about Islam to discuss it and to be rightfully fearful of it, I don't think Jefferson was an Islamic scholar. Rather, I think he approached it with some amount of naivete and a sense of it being "far away" and thus not our problem. If it had become an issue on American soil, I think he would have become obsessive in studying and refuting Islam because the laws of Islam are polar opposites from our Bill of Rights and our Constitution, and therefore, against everything he believed in.

24 posted on 01/03/2007 11:20:22 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)


18 posted on 01/03/2007 11:43:26 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Do you think George W. Has a copy of the KORAN ?


19 posted on 01/03/2007 11:47:30 AM PST by jd777
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To: You Dirty Rats

As long as the Qur'an is available for indoctrination purposes, all believers are potential radicals. Islam needs to be shelved permanently. Forget Osama. Study Islam. That's all you need to do.


20 posted on 01/03/2007 11:49:24 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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