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Howie Carr Live Thread 1/3/07 & Column: Deval sticks his nose in but can't close deal
HowieCarr.com ^ | 1/3/07 | raccoonradio

Posted on 01/03/2007 8:41:10 AM PST by raccoonradio

Howie column below (about gay marriage vote). Also live thread for today's Howie Carr show.


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1 posted on 01/03/2007 8:41:15 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Andonius_99; Andy'smom; Big Guy and Rusty 99; bitt; Barset; Carolinamom; Cheapskate; danno3150; ...
Column to follow.

2 posted on 01/03/2007 8:42:02 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
Deval sticks his nose in but can't close deal

The Legislature has never bothered listening to a Governor and they aren't about to now unless that Governor says what they tell him to say.

3 posted on 01/03/2007 8:43:13 AM PST by rhombus
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To: raccoonradio

Kris Mineau, left, spokesman for Vote on Marriage, Tom Shields, chairman for Coalition for Marriage and Family, and Sen. Phil Travis of Rehoboth celebrate yesterday the Legislature’s vote to advance a ballot initiative that would ban gay marriage.

4 posted on 01/03/2007 8:44:12 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: raccoonradio

Deval sticks his nose in, but can’t close deal
By Howie Carr

Poor Arline Isaacson - her Mass. Teachers Association dumps all that money into the campaign of Gov.-elect Deval Patrick, so she calls in a marker on the only thing she really cares about, gay marriage. But then Deval can’t twist enough arms to kill the bill.

Three million bucks just doesn’t buy what it used to, does it, Arline?

So the proposed 2008 ballot question to ban “gay marriage” remains alive. But Arline is still a heavy favorite to win in the end. She’s doing it, after all, “for the children.”

The good news is, everyone’s life and liberty is safe - the Legislature adjourned last night.

The bad news, they’re coming back to the State House this morning to be sworn in for the next session. And the terrain continues to shift in favor of the gay lobby. Last night, Kris Mineau of the Massachusetts Family Institute was asked which pols played the most important roles in fending off the homosexual lobby.

“There was Gov. Mitt Romney,” he said, “who changed the whole dynamic when he filed the lawsuit against the Legislature.”

This, of course, is Mitt’s last full day as governor.

“And Senate President Travaglini ran a tight ship, he didn’t allow for a lot of procedural maneuvers. He made it happen.”

Everybody thinks the next thing Trav will make happen is his own disappearance from the Legislature, probably in the spring.

“And, of course, the two reps, Phil Travis and Emile Goguen.”

Both of whose final terms expired at midnight.

The fact is, the gays just got greedy yesterday. They could have played by the rules and won. Hell, they probably still will. The high-water mark for the meanspirited let-the-people-decide crowd was 62 votes. And several of the pro-family reps besides Travis and Goguen are history. Farewell, Marie Parente.

But they couldn’t wait. They’re just too afraid of putting “gay marriage” to a vote. Finally, even Isaacson admits what we all know - that it would be voted down here, just as it has been everywhere else.

So Deval Patrick took time out from baking his inaugural chocolate chip cookies to trudge up to the State House to dangle a few carrots. Do you suppose that someone from, say, Essex County was promised, say, the job of veterans commissioner in return for changing his vote?

It was a rather unseemly way for Deval to begin his inaugural week, which is shaping up as even longer than Gerald Ford’s funeral. But what choice did he have? He owes Arline Isaacson big time, and he’s a bit strapped in the local-aid department, plus, didn’t he promise to reduce property taxes rather than stand by while the teachers turn every municipality in the commonwealth into Chelsea?

But is it really a good move to urge the legislators not to worry about breaking the law? That’s just the kind of encouragement they don’t need, Deval.

Breaking the law is a suggestion that will win friends and influence people on Beacon Hill. Break the law? Yes we can.

Next, Deval, you can lead the solons in a chant.

Toga, Toga, TOGA!

Deval shrugged and said that defying the law was simply a matter of “conscience.” Yeah, right. By one vote, the SJC invents a right to “gay marriage” that nobody anywhere had ever heard of before, and then, to stop the people from exercising their constitutional rights to do something about this radical reordering of society, Deval decides it’s OK to shred a part of the state constitution that dates back to 1918.

“The sky isn’t falling,” Deval said.
No, it isn’t. Not today. No thanks to you, Deval.

And by the way, did you notice something missing in this debate? Namely, live TV coverage. Yes, at a very fortuitous moment, the Legislature has vanished from Channel 44. Now they’re on the Internet, and I don’t mean YouTube, or MySpace. They’re tucked away on a government site, never to be seen again.

Nice win, all you soon-to-be-former pols. For Deval and Arline, the question is, can we stick it to the people at the next ConCon? The answer is, Yes we can.


5 posted on 01/03/2007 8:44:20 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: rhombus

The Legislature has never bothered listening to a Governor and they aren't about to now unless that Governor says what they tell him to say.

Agreed.Jealousy runs deep wiht those idiots


6 posted on 01/03/2007 8:44:55 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: rhombus

They've never listened to the voters either. Even if this does get through and the voters vote in favor of protecting marriage, I lived in Mass. too long to think it will actually be implemented. The Legislature "knows better" than the voters.


7 posted on 01/03/2007 8:47:57 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: raccoonradio

by the way I noticed last night that RKO ran Savage at 7 pm rather than 10 even though there was NO late Celtics game...
they followed it with Jerry Doyle (whom they run on Sat.
nights; from same syndicator as Savage & Laura Ingraham)
Yet today they ran a promo saying Savage is on at 10?
(This means Feinburg might get that morning slot. BUT
note no changes yet on 'RKO site...We still don't know
if Tom Finneran--no joke--may get that morning slot.
Depends on how his trial goes?)

meanwhile WTKK shuffles its lineup: chops an hour from
both Imus and Barnicle (see sep. thread about their joking about Republicans on the gallows), moves Graham to mornings and takes an hour from his show; expands Eagan and Braude
to 3 hours opp. Rush. Severin stays at same slot, then
O'Reilly, Ingraham, a rebroadcast of Barnicle, and then
John and Jeff.

Me, the only two shows I really listen to are Howie and
Ingraham but I've been known to catch some others.


8 posted on 01/03/2007 8:53:19 AM PST by raccoonradio
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A request to all Massachusetts Freepers:from now on,we must refer to our incoming governor as "Devil"...not because he *is* the devil (he clearly isn't) but because there can be no doubt that he plans to do the work of the devil.
9 posted on 01/03/2007 8:55:37 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: raccoonradio

This means Feinburg might get that morning slot. BUT
note no changes yet on 'RKO site...

Heard a bumper on RKO yesterday that said Feinburg in the AM


10 posted on 01/03/2007 8:56:26 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: Gay State Conservative

Works for me.Has the honeymoon ended before it started for"Devil".I think he thinks whatever he says EVERYONE should consider as Scripture.Not so fast"Devil".His little speech and lobbying at the State House for the anti- gay marriage initiative went unheeded.Whoops!


11 posted on 01/03/2007 9:01:01 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: raccoonradio

Many thanks for posting this Howie Carr column which I believe is hard to get via Herald on-line.

Anyways... The sub text I get here is that Deval is gay. Might that be the case?


12 posted on 01/03/2007 9:01:25 AM PST by dennisw (Allah has no son and no prophet unless a false prophet qualifies)
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Anyways... The sub text I get here is that Deval is gay. Might that be the case?

Worse.He's a flaming moonbat!


13 posted on 01/03/2007 9:04:36 AM PST by GQuagmire
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To: GQuagmire

oh good...well, no changes to site yet. To be honest
WRKO is now focusing on their Sox games (though they
will leave afternoon games and Wed. nights to WEEI).
They're playing promos for that like crazy. The syndicated
talk shows are merely timefillers for those nights when
there's no Sox or Celtics game at or after 7 pm...


14 posted on 01/03/2007 9:20:13 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: GQuagmire

He is married. And yes, to a woman...


15 posted on 01/03/2007 9:20:45 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Gay State Conservative

> we must refer to our incoming governor as "Devil"...

RR asked yesterday about what nickname the new Gov should be dubbed with. How about "Plastic?" Deval Plastic, Governor Plastic. The guy can assume any shape, he's as genuine as astroturf, and he's going to stake his socialist "vision" with the state's plastic charge card while we get stuck with the bill.

As glad as I am that the marriage amendment has leapt this hurdle, I am delighted that Deval Plastic suffered a stunning defeat in telling the legislature what to do...and he isn't even Governor yet!


16 posted on 01/03/2007 9:53:42 AM PST by cloud8
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To: raccoonradio
He is married. And yes, to a woman...

Which proves Jack! I know many gays, men AND women, who are/were married and have children with their spouses but still have their gay lifestyles "under cover"...

17 posted on 01/03/2007 9:54:56 AM PST by ssaftler
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To: cloud8
Plastic.......hmmmm......I LIKE IT!!!
18 posted on 01/03/2007 9:56:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: raccoonradio

Egan and Braude for 3 hours? Yikes listening to her is a tough assignment. For a flaming liberal Braude is actually entertaining.Now, I just wish they would replace John and Jeff with just about anyone else.


19 posted on 01/03/2007 10:03:07 AM PST by surrey
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Braude and Severin (Graham, too) do some commercials that run on WTKK. I can take Braude's voice over Jay's, at least.

Wasn't Braude part of the "Tax Equity Alliance of Mass."?
I think Jerry W. or Howie once called that group the
Tax Escalation Alliance. My own nickname, spoofing the name
of Barbara Anderson's group: Citizens For UN-limited taxation!


20 posted on 01/03/2007 10:08:35 AM PST by raccoonradio
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